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Rose

The name does also say Nye so unlikely but it would have been useful to know beforehand, seeing as I have no Neals in my family.

I have found a possible marriage

Name: Thomas J Nye (also Hye)
Spouse: Walthousen
Marriage: Apr-May-Jun 1935 - Brentford, Middlesex

I think I 'll have to order the cert for details. Although he'd only be about 17.

This is oh so frustrating. Is there a way of looking at records locally without ordering all the time?

Brentford is only a matter of miles from me.

thanks

samantha

Samantha,

You need to contact the GRO and ask them why the names differ. Could be they made a mistake and you might get a refund.

Rose

Update - I have recieved the death cert for the 7 yr old. I don't have it with me as I type but I'm pretty sure it's not my T J Nye. his surname is listed as Neal on the cert. And he fell from a window or balcony in an Army community barracks. Very sad. Back to the drawing board for me I think.

Thanks both of you for your help.

Samantha

Thanks Mummycool

I've had a brief look but am pretty certain they are not related. I have yet to come across the name Dengate. Thanks for the idea though. Its exactly what I need, fresh ideas. Lets see what the death cert of the over Thomas J says. Fingers crossed :)

This may or may not help, but he may be the Thomas Nye taken into the Dengate family (Northiam, Rye, Sedlescombe) A member of the Dengate family married into the Nye family, and a child was taken in for some time, who I believe was a cousin. Obviously, this is verbal family history, but may be a clue for you. The Dengate Family Website may help a little, the Nyes are on there somewhere!

Rose

I will order the cert, I have no idea why he would be there if it is him. Maybe they went on holiday or something and he died. I guess he would be registered there then.

Thanks for your help

Samantha

oh yes sorry

his middle name is Joseph.

I'm still not convinced by the Davenport one but am checking the area on google to see if its anywhere near where the extended family lived.

Thanks

I mean devonport

Must be the Devonport death. Not other Thomas J Nyes born 7 years before that. Where there any relatives that lived that way?

Rose

And what's his middle name? Could be he was known by that as his father was Thomas.

Rose

His date of birth is 9 December 1918 Brentford Middlesex

If you have the birth certificate, what's his date of birth?

Rose

I'm just pushing this up to see if anyone new has any ideas. I ordered the birth cert and its definately my grandfathers brother. I still can't find a death or marriage or anything on him. No family member knows anything about him. There is a death for a Thomas W J Nye in Medway and the family were originally from there, but this is not him.

Thanks in advance

Samantha

I don't see any other Thomas J Nye's bron 1918/1919 that it could be.

Rose

I think I'll just give up for now. I have been looking on and off for a while. I'll order the birth cert to confirm he's my guy. (I'm pretty sure he is) I just don't understand where he could have got to, unless he was adopted out but then why wasn't my grandfather who was only 4 yrs older. Maybe when the mother died another family member took him in.

Thanks all

Samantha

Gladys is Kensington

Yes thats right

They were both in Kent, they then lived with her parents in 1901.
In 1908 the were in Kensington where there daughter was born.
1910/11 in Croydon where a so was born and died. Also on the 1911 Census.
1914 ealing where my grandfather was born.
1919-1927 in the ealing directories (I haven't checked before this)
1929-1938 in the ealing directories. Father Nye died in 1938. His 2nd wife is listed in 1939. The records between this and 1944 are missing. 1945 new people at the address.

Hope this helps

Thanks
Samantha

Where was Gladys born?

Rose

They moved around a bit so it might be hard to track down the births and deaths.

In 1901 they are in Hoo registration district.

Rose

Hi Portland Rose

yes they are

Samantha :)

Hi Jean

Its unlikely, I should have mentioned the family lived in Brentford/Ealing for many years, the Mother Bills died in 1921 and the family moved but still lived in Ealing. The Father Nye re-married and another daughter was born in 1929 Brentford. I ordered his wedding cert to the daughters mother and he was married in Southend on Sea. This has though baffled me. The year of marriage is 1928 but like I said the daughter was born in Brentford 1929.
Between 1919 and 1927 Father Nye is in the Ealing directories to say he is living in ealing. 1928 he is not listed. So he must have been in Southend for that time.

thank you for your reply though

If its the only one, then I may just order it.

Samantha