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hi lyn can you please look up William Morris dob 1839 he came from east yorkshire ( Beverley area) i do not have his parents names but he married sarah Ann Richardson
thankyou Lynda

Hi Potty, Liinda B and Ian

Thank you all very much with the help in finding all the info on Williiam and Mary and Now is second Wife Annie which I know nothing about.

All I have to do now is wait for the cert to come back to find out what Mary surnames was.

Once again a big thank you

Well done Potty...I was going crosseyed lol..

Possible death for Annie...

Name: Annie Moran
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Year of Registration: 1888
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 57
District: Burton Upon Trent
County: Derbyshire, Staffordshire
Volume: 6b
Page: 308 (click to see others on page)

Linda

At last - found them in 1851 - mistranscribed and just before Mary Ann Eliza's birth:

1851 England Census
about Mary Ann Morand
Name: Mary Ann Morand
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William
Gender: Female
Where born: Lambeth, Surrey, England

Civil parish: Battersea
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Wandsworth
Sub-registration district: Battersea
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 33
Household Members: Name Age
William Morand 25
Mary Ann Morand 20

Lyn should be able to confirm Mary Ann's maiden name from the birth cert she has sent for.

A death that would tie in:

Deaths Dec 1875 (>99%)
MORAN Mary Ann 45 Sheffield 9c 337

As William's son John was born in Burton on Trent...possible birth ?

Name: John Moran
Year of Registration: 1858
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Burton Upon Trent
County: Derbyshire, Staffordshire
Volume: 6b
Page: 295 (click to see others on page)

Linda

How about this marriage to Annie Wood...

Name: William Moran
Year of Registration: 1876
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Burton Upon Trent
County: Derbyshire, Staffordshire
Volume: 6b
Page: 540 (click to see others on page)

From the Staffordshire bmd site they married at Christ Church, Burton upon Trent.

Linda

Hi Potty

That could be the true I will look it to that but for now I have to go out for a few hours be back later

1871 - wife now Mary Ann, born London - I wonder if Mary Ann died and William remarried:

1871 England Census
about Mary Ann Moran
Name: Mary Ann Moran
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William
Gender: Female
Where born: London, England
Civil parish: Sheffield
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen
Town: Sheffield
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image
Registration district: Sheffield
Sub-registration district: North Sheffield
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 8
Household Members: Name Age
William Moran 42
Mary Ann Moran 39
William J Moran 19
Henry S Moran 14
John Moran 12

I don't know if this will help but William had a daughter born abt 1851 in Battersea her name was Mary Ann Eliza

Think we need to work backwards on this - William in 1891, widower, occupation - Cooper:

1891 England Census
about William Moran
Name: William Moran
Age: 63
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Stroud, Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: Over Darwen
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Darwen
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Blackburn
Sub-registration district: Darwen
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Hayes 65
Elizabeth Hayes 53
John Leo Conroy 8
William Moran 63

With wife, Annie, in 1881

1881 England Census
about Annie Moran
Name: Annie Moran
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William
Gender: Female
Where born: Worcestershire, England

Civil parish: Burton Extra
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address: 15 Canal St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Burton Upon Trent
Sub-registration district: Burton Upon Trent
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Moran 52
Annie Moran 50
John Moran 21
Benjamin Chambers 36

Hi Potty

I have sent of for William (1853) Birth Cerf waiting to get it back. That could be the possible, See the problem is that my uncle said her maidain name was Stevens, I won't know under I get the Cerf back.

This would appear to be Henry's birth
Births Mar 1855 (>99%)
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Moran Henry Samuel N. Aylesford 2a 257

I don't think so as both of his parents are from Stroud, and William was christened in Pitchcome, Gloucestershire

Possible marriage for William and Mary Ann?

Marriages Dec 1849 (>99%)

Hiscock John Lambeth 4 357
Huddart Frances Mary Lambeth 4 357
Ibotson Emma Lambeth 4 357
Miles Eliza Lambeth 4 357
************Moran William Lambeth 4 357
Ramsbottom Enoch Lambeth 4 357
Russell John Wilkins Lambeth 4 357
************Waters Mary Ann Lambeth 4 357

This is probably William jnr's birth reg (Nth Aylesford covers Northfleet, his POB in the 1861). The birth cert would give you Mary Anne's maiden name:

Births Mar 1853 (>99%)
MORAN William James N Aylesford 2a 249

yes that them for 1861

Is this her on the 1861 census?
Name: Mary Anne Moran
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William
Gender: Female
Where born: Vaxhall, Surrey, England

Civil parish: Brightside Bierlow
Ecclesiastical parish: Brightside
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Sheffield
Sub-registration district: Brightside
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 137
Household Members: Name Age
William Moran 32
Mary Anne Moran 29
Mary Anne Moran 9
William Moran 7
Henry Moran 5
John Moran 3

Hi Ian

on the 1861 it say that he is from Greenwich, Kent

That where I am not sure as on the 1861 it say she from Vaxhall, London, 1871 just from London and on the 1881 she was from Worcestershire and under the name of Annie