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census look up please for 1851

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lyn

lyn Report 1 Jul 2009 12:14

I am looking for William and Mary A Moran, William was born 1829 in Stroud, Gloucestershire and Mary was abt 1832 in London.

Can anyone help please

lyn

lyn Report 1 Jul 2009 12:26

Hi Ian

they was married either in 1846 or 1849 not sure on Mary surname yet

ceri

ceri Report 1 Jul 2009 12:36

i can only find 2 mary moran's born in london on the 1851 census...the first of which was born quite a bit before you think she was, the other isnt a bad match but she is married to John Moran, I have posted the full transcription of the 1831 one for you...Do you where in london she was likely to have been born?

Mary Moran abt 1824 Clerkenwell, London, England Cook Christchurch, Middlesex

Mary Moran abt 1831 London, England Wife St Bartholomew The Great, Middlesex

1851 England Census
about Mary Moran
Name: Mary Moran
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relation: Wife
Gender: Female
Where born: London, England

Civil parish: St Bartholomew The Great
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: West London
Sub-registration district: West London North
ED, institution, or vessel: 1c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 6
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Burnes 73
John Moran 20
Mary Moran 20
John Moran 2 Mo



ceri

ceri Report 1 Jul 2009 12:43

The only 'Moran' i can find born in Gloucestershire between 1824 -1834 on the 1851 census is a James Moran

lyn

lyn Report 1 Jul 2009 12:43

That where I am not sure as on the 1861 it say she from Vaxhall, London, 1871 just from London and on the 1881 she was from Worcestershire and under the name of Annie

lyn

lyn Report 1 Jul 2009 12:47

Hi Ian

on the 1861 it say that he is from Greenwich, Kent

ceri

ceri Report 1 Jul 2009 12:50

Is this her on the 1861 census?
Name: Mary Anne Moran
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William
Gender: Female
Where born: Vaxhall, Surrey, England

Civil parish: Brightside Bierlow
Ecclesiastical parish: Brightside
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Sheffield
Sub-registration district: Brightside
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 137
Household Members: Name Age
William Moran 32
Mary Anne Moran 29
Mary Anne Moran 9
William Moran 7
Henry Moran 5
John Moran 3

lyn

lyn Report 1 Jul 2009 12:53

yes that them for 1861

Potty

Potty Report 1 Jul 2009 13:04

This is probably William jnr's birth reg (Nth Aylesford covers Northfleet, his POB in the 1861). The birth cert would give you Mary Anne's maiden name:

Births Mar 1853 (>99%)
MORAN William James N Aylesford 2a 249

Potty

Potty Report 1 Jul 2009 13:06

Possible marriage for William and Mary Ann?

Marriages Dec 1849 (>99%)

Hiscock John Lambeth 4 357
Huddart Frances Mary Lambeth 4 357
Ibotson Emma Lambeth 4 357
Miles Eliza Lambeth 4 357
************Moran William Lambeth 4 357
Ramsbottom Enoch Lambeth 4 357
Russell John Wilkins Lambeth 4 357
************Waters Mary Ann Lambeth 4 357

lyn

lyn Report 1 Jul 2009 13:06

I don't think so as both of his parents are from Stroud, and William was christened in Pitchcome, Gloucestershire

ceri

ceri Report 1 Jul 2009 13:07

This would appear to be Henry's birth
Births Mar 1855 (>99%)
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Moran Henry Samuel N. Aylesford 2a 257

lyn

lyn Report 1 Jul 2009 13:15

Hi Potty

I have sent of for William (1853) Birth Cerf waiting to get it back. That could be the possible, See the problem is that my uncle said her maidain name was Stevens, I won't know under I get the Cerf back.

Potty

Potty Report 1 Jul 2009 13:16

Think we need to work backwards on this - William in 1891, widower, occupation - Cooper:

1891 England Census
about William Moran
Name: William Moran
Age: 63
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Stroud, Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: Over Darwen
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Darwen
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Blackburn
Sub-registration district: Darwen
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Hayes 65
Elizabeth Hayes 53
John Leo Conroy 8
William Moran 63

With wife, Annie, in 1881

1881 England Census
about Annie Moran
Name: Annie Moran
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William
Gender: Female
Where born: Worcestershire, England

Civil parish: Burton Extra
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address: 15 Canal St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Burton Upon Trent
Sub-registration district: Burton Upon Trent
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Moran 52
Annie Moran 50
John Moran 21
Benjamin Chambers 36


lyn

lyn Report 1 Jul 2009 13:18

I don't know if this will help but William had a daughter born abt 1851 in Battersea her name was Mary Ann Eliza

Potty

Potty Report 1 Jul 2009 13:22

1871 - wife now Mary Ann, born London - I wonder if Mary Ann died and William remarried:

1871 England Census
about Mary Ann Moran
Name: Mary Ann Moran
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William
Gender: Female
Where born: London, England
Civil parish: Sheffield
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen
Town: Sheffield
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image
Registration district: Sheffield
Sub-registration district: North Sheffield
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 8
Household Members: Name Age
William Moran 42
Mary Ann Moran 39
William J Moran 19
Henry S Moran 14
John Moran 12


lyn

lyn Report 1 Jul 2009 13:31

Hi Potty

That could be the true I will look it to that but for now I have to go out for a few hours be back later

Cheshiremaid

Cheshiremaid Report 1 Jul 2009 13:37

How about this marriage to Annie Wood...

Name: William Moran
Year of Registration: 1876
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Burton Upon Trent
County: Derbyshire, Staffordshire
Volume: 6b
Page: 540 (click to see others on page)

From the Staffordshire bmd site they married at Christ Church, Burton upon Trent.

Linda

Cheshiremaid

Cheshiremaid Report 1 Jul 2009 13:42


As William's son John was born in Burton on Trent...possible birth ?

Name: John Moran
Year of Registration: 1858
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Burton Upon Trent
County: Derbyshire, Staffordshire
Volume: 6b
Page: 295 (click to see others on page)

Linda

Potty

Potty Report 1 Jul 2009 14:07

A death that would tie in:

Deaths Dec 1875 (>99%)
MORAN Mary Ann 45 Sheffield 9c 337