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Martha Hallam (nee Bentley) 1784

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SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 20 May 2009 23:08

well, here's an apparent marriage of a Sarah Cooper and a Thomas Hallam ........ but it's 1839.

Taken from www.freebmd.org.uk


You need to buy the certificate to make sure they married each other!!


Marriages Jun 1839 (>99%)

COOPER Sarah Leicester 15 122
HALLAM Thomas Leicester 15 122
LESTER George Blankey Leicester 15 122
MAWBY Elizabeth Leicester 15 122
MOORE Charles Leicester 15 122
MOORE Rachel Leicester 15 122
NEWBOLD Rebecca Leicester 15 122
PRIEST George Leicester 15 122




sylvia

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

Jasrajan

Jasrajan Report 20 May 2009 22:59

Sorry, but it is past midnight here and I really most stop. Can I get back to you tomorrow evening?

Thank you for all the help so far.
Janet

Researching:
Hallam/ Chester,Loughborough, East Leake, Leics.

Jasrajan

Jasrajan Report 20 May 2009 22:57

Yes, that was really confusing. It stumped me for a long time. Thomas married twice and both his wives were called Sarah! First one was Sarah Mansfield and second Sarah Cooper. I cannot find his second marriage but their first son - John Cooper Hallam was born in 1845.
Janet

Researching:
Hallam/ Chester,Loughborough, East Leake, Leics.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 20 May 2009 22:57

Mansfield/Maxfield 1824/1826, both Nottingham!



THOMAS HALLAM Pedigree
Male Family

Marriages:
Spouse: SARAH MAXFIELD Family
Marriage: 24 OCT 1826 Saint Mary, Nottingham, Nottingham, England

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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.

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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
M044873 1813 - 1816 0504071 Film NONE
M044873 1817 - 1827 0504073 Film NONE
M044873 1822 - 1826 0504072 Film NONE




sylvia

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 20 May 2009 22:54

This is more likely to be the Thomas and Sarah on that 1851 record


THOMAS HALLAM Pedigree
Male Family

Marriages:
Spouse: SARAH PRESTON Family
Marriage: 26 JUL 1835 Saint Margaret, Leicester, Leicester, England

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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.

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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
M034611 1754 - 1837 0596718 Film 1238714 Film


sylvia

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 20 May 2009 22:52

errrrrrrrrrrrrrr


Have you got your dates correct???


if this is your Thomas and Sarah on the 1851 ........... she was only 11 when they married in 1824

1851 Census

Name: Sarah Hallam
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1813 <<<<<<<<<<<
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Thomas
Gender: Female
Where born: Loughborough, Leicestershire, England

Civil Parish: Loughborough
Town: Loughborough
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England

Registration district: Loughborough
Sub-registration district: Loughborough

Thomas Hallam 46
Sarah Hallam 38
Sarah Hallam 13
John Cooper Hallam 5
Thomas Hallam 3
Frederick Hallam 1





sylvia

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 20 May 2009 22:47

it certainly seems that Hallam was a pretty common name in that area at that time!!



and unfortunately, most of the records on the I G I on familysearch are submitted records, sent in (most probably) by members of the church, and therefore not to be completely trusted!



sylvia

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

Jasrajan

Jasrajan Report 20 May 2009 22:44

Yes, this is the Thomas Hallam in Pinfold Gate, Loughborough, who is my gt gt grandfather. The problem is trying to find who his parents were. There were several Thomas`s born in or around EL at that time. It`s a real nightmare try to establish who his parents where. I`m clutching at straws with the Bentley witness on his marriage cert.
Janet

Researching:
Hallam/ Chester,Loughborough, East Leake, Leics.

PollyPoppet

PollyPoppet Report 20 May 2009 22:37

sorry should have been 1851
1851 census

Name Thomas Hallam
Age 46
Estimated Year of Birth 1805
Relationship to Head of Household HEAD
Occupation LABOURER
Address Penfold Gate
District Loughborough, Loughborough
Parish
Administrative County Leicestershire
Birth Place East Leake
Birth County NOTTINGHAMSHIRE
in house
thomas head 46
sarah wife 38
sarah 13
john c 5
thomas 3
freerick 1
HO 107 / 2085

Jasrajan

Jasrajan Report 20 May 2009 22:36

Not heard of the Kirchen family before. I suppose Mary Hallam could be the mother. Have you found anything on Joseph Bentley? All I have is the name, no d.o.b. I`m afraid.

THOMAS HALLAM is the person I am keen to get info on. He married Sarah Mansfield in Oct 1824 in Nottingham and witness was Joseph Bentley. I am just trying to establish that his parents were actually John & Martha. The witness could have been his uncle or his grandfather.

Researching:
Hallam/ Chester,Loughborough, East Leake, Leics.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 20 May 2009 22:31

children of John and Mary Hallam



ELIZABETH KIRCHEN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 19 MAY 1833 East Leake, Nottingham, England

WILLIAM KIRCHEN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 13 JUL 1834 East Leake, Nottingham, England
Male Christening: 23 OCT 1835 East Leake, Nottingham, England



No sign of Harriet!



sylvia

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 20 May 2009 22:27

From the I G I on familysearch

JOHN KIRCHEN Pedigree
Male Family


Marriages:
Spouse: MARY HALLAM Family
Marriage: 05 MAY 1831 East Leake, Nottingham, England

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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.

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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
M059061 1813 - 1836 0504520 Film 6903639 Film




sylvia

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 20 May 2009 22:25

1851 census from ancestry ... with some added information


1851 Census

Name: John Hallam
Age: 65
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1786
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: East Leake, Nottinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: East Leake
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Registration district: Loughborough
Sub-registration district: Leake

John Hallam 65 Widower, Victualler
William Hallam 32 b.ca 1819, Seagrave, Leicestershire. No occupation shown
Elizabeth Kirchen 18 b.ca 1833, East Leake, Nottinghamshire, Granddaughter, Servant
William Kirchen 15 b.ca 1836, East Leake, Miller
Harriott Kirchen 9 b.ca 1842, East Leake, Scholar
Thomas W Craig 50 Lodger
William Bonser 17 Lodger

No address given



Two doors away are John Kirchen, Miller, wife Mary, and mother Susan (unmarried) ????? the Kirchen children's parents????



sylvia

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 20 May 2009 22:22

children of John Hallam and Mary ........ from the International Genealogical Index on www.familysearch.org ........ these are all EXTRACTED records, taken from the actual parish records



THOMAS HALLAM - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 07 MAR 1808
Male Christening: 13 MAR 1808 East Leake, Nottingham, England


JOHN HALLAM - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 11 NOV 1805
Male Christening: 17 NOV 1805 East Leake, Nottingham, England


MARY HALLAM - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 26 AUG 1810
Female Christening: 02 SEP 1810 East Leake, Nottingham, England



sylvia

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

Jasrajan

Jasrajan Report 20 May 2009 22:18

Is it also possible to find Joseph Bentley? He could be her father or her brother.

Researching:
Hallam/ Chester,Loughborough, East Leake, Leics.

Jasrajan

Jasrajan Report 20 May 2009 22:15

I`m not sure, but I think there was a son called Thomas born about 1805 in East Leake. Can you find him for me?

Researching:
Hallam/ Chester,Loughborough, East Leake, Leics.

Jasrajan

Jasrajan Report 20 May 2009 22:12

It seems there were 2 Martha Hallams in Loughborough. I found this on Ancestry when looking for deaths.
England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983
Birth, Marriage & Death

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Name: Martha Hallam
Year of Registration: 1856
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Loughborough
County: Leicestershire, Nottinghamshire
Volume: 7a






Name: Martha Hallam
Death: Mar 1856 - Loughborough, Leicestershire, Nottinghamshire

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983
Birth, Marriage & Death

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Name: Martha Hallam
Year of Registration: 1861
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Leicester (1837-1974)
County: Leicestershire
Volume: 7a


Name: Martha Hallam
Death: Mar 1861 - Leicester (1837-1974), Leicestershire

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983
Birth, Marriage & Death

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Preview
Name: Martha Hallam
Year of Registration: 1861
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Loughborough
County: Leicestershire, Nottinghamshire
Volume: 7a


Name: Martha Hallam
Death: Jun 1861 - Loughborough, Leicestershire, Nottinghamshire

Researching:
Hallam/ Chester,Loughborough, East Leake, Leics.

PollyPoppet

PollyPoppet Report 20 May 2009 22:07

hi nothing for john after 1851 census that i can find

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 20 May 2009 22:05

Martha's death??


Deaths Sep 1845 (92%)

HALLAM Martha Loughbro' 15 93



Loughborough is the registration centre that includes East Leake



sylvia

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

PollyPoppet

PollyPoppet Report 20 May 2009 22:00

1851 census
Census Record: John Smith
Name John Hallam
Age 65
Estimated Year of Birth 1786
Relationship to Head of Household HEAD
Occupation VICTUALLER & BASKET MAKER
Address Gotham Lane End
District Loughborough, Leake
Parish
Administrative County Leicestershire
Birth Place East Leake
Birth County NOTTINGHAMSHIRE
in house
john head 65 widower
william son 32
elizabeth kerchin grandaughter 18
william kerchin grandson 15
harriet kerchin grandaughter 9
thomas w craig lodger 30
william borsden lodger 17
HO 107 / 2086

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