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well done Dea I looked at 1911 but you got the spelling for that record

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Well here is is in 1911

HOUSEHOLD SUTCLIFFE NEBUT M 1852 59 Pontefract Yorkshire West Riding
HOUSEHOLD RICHARDSON ALLAN M 1872 39 Pontefract Yorkshire West Riding

Can't see if there are any more people in the household without paying to view but at least you know where to find him now.

Dea x

thanks dea
that looks good to me but with what went on in the family all those years ago ie unmarried mothers with a few kids anything is possible

sorry for delay in my reply have been trawling about to try & make sence of it lol

& lewella thats exactly what i thought lol how wrong i was

once again thank you to all who have helped unmask my nebat sutcliffe/ramsden whatever his name is lol

jacky

How about this one??

Deaths Dec 1912 (>99%)
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Sutcliffe Nebut 62 Pontefract 9c 110


Dea x

Nebat didnt die as a ramsden between 1901 and 1911 I have checked the index manually

Ginny x

Well, you didn't think it was going to be easy with a name like Nebat, did you? LOL :-)

hi ginny
thank you for all your help i will indeed have to look into the sutcliffe /ramsdens but think i may take a few asprin befor i do lol

many thanks to everyone who has spent time looking & for infomation given

jacky

Jacky
it looks like you need to research...Sutcliffe, Ramsden and dont forget the stepson..Richardson!

makes life interesting :O)

x

the plot thickens lol its a bit of a mess lol going to have try & sort out who belong to MR RAMSDEN & who doesn.t why did our rellies make it so difficult for his to trace who was who lol
thank you

jacky

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Enoch Paul Sutcliff
Name: Enoch Paul Sutcliff
Year of Registration: 1850
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Hunslet
County: Yorkshire - West Riding
Volume: 23
Page: 306

I'm guessing with the added name Ramsden in the 1851 census that Mr Ramsden might have had something to do with his creation as well

hi ginny
that looks like her my goodness lots of shinnanigans going on in this family lol
thank you

jacky

Could this be Hannah. Un Married (Naughty girl)

1871 England Census
about Alan Richardson
Name: Alan Richardson
Age: 4 months
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Hannah
Gender: Male
Where born: Brotherton, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Brotherton
Town: Brotherton
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Pontefract
Sub registration district: Knottingley
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 103
Household Members: Name Age
Hannah Richardson 28
Martha Ann Richardson 8
Tone Edward Richardson 5
Walter Richardson 4
Alan Richardson 4 months

?????
Rachel Sutcliffe Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth: 1820 Horton, , Yorkshire, England

Christening:
Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: Johnathan Sutcliffe Family
Mother: Hannah North


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Messages:
Record submitted by a member of the LDS Church. The record often shows the name of the individual and his or her relationship to a descendant, shown as the heir, family representative, or relative. The original records are not indexed, and you may have to look at the film frame-by-frame to find the information you want. A family group record for this couple may be in the Family Group Record Collection; Archive Section. (See the Family History Library Catalog for the film number.) These records are alphabetical by name of the father or husband.


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Source Information:
Film Number: 458554

WOW
thank you to all you lovely people now i have to just work out who was a suttcliff & who was a ramsden lol
guess a trip to the main records office in leeds & bradford is in order as it would cost me a fortune to buy all theses birth certs luckily i live in between both leeds & bradford
once again thank you so much for all your time & infomation
jacky

Family Group Record
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Husband

John Sutcliffe Pedigree

Birth: About 1808 Of Little Horton, Bradford, Yorkshire, England
Christening:
Marriage:
Death:
Burial:



Wife

Rachel Sutcliffe Pedigree

Birth: About 1812 Of Little Horton, Bradford, Yorkshire, England
Christening:
Marriage:
Death:
Burial:



Children
1. Abraham Sutcliffe Pedigree
Male


Birth: 09 JAN 1834 Little Horton, Bradford, Yorkshire, England
Christening:
Death:
Burial:

2. Mary Sutcliffe Pedigree
Female


Birth: 26 JAN 1835 Little Horton, Bradford, Yorkshire, England
Christening:
Death:
Burial:

As I suspected!!!


England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Nebat Ramsden
Name: Nebat Ramsden
Year of Registration: 1853
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Hunslet
County: Yorkshire - West Riding
Volume: 9b
Page: 243

1851 England Census
about Rachell Suttlecliff
Name: Rachell Suttlecliff
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1818
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Little Horton, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Beeston
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Condition as to marriage: hmmmm, widowed! I wonder if the Ramsden lodger has anything to do with this!!

Registration district: Hunslet
Sub registration district: Holbeck
ED, institution, or vessel: 2a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 62
Household Members:
Name Age
Rachell Suttlecliff 33
Abraham Suttlecliff 17
Mary Suttlecliff 16
Isaac Suttlecliff 14
Jacob Suttlecliff 11
Sugden Suttlecliff 9
Enock Paul Ransden Suttlecliff 9 Mo
David Ramsden 50 (lodger)
George Ramsden 14
Alfred Ramsden 7
Ann Ramsden 22

If this is the same family in 1841 there is no husband present and Rachel is noted as being Independent.

Isaac Sutcliff
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Gender: Male
Where born: Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Bradford
Hundred: Morley
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Bradford
Sub registration district: Horton
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Rachael Sutcliff 20
Aram Sutcliff 5
Mary Sutcliff 5
Isaac Sutcliff 4
Jacob Sutcliff 1

This looks like him in 1901. Alan Richardson is down as the stepson... Nebat is a coal miner

1901 England Census
about Nebat Sutliffe
Name: Nebat Sutliffe
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Hannah
Gender: Male
Where born: Berston, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Brotherton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Edward
Town: Brotherton
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Pontefract
Sub registration district: Knottingley
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 59
Household Members: Name Age
Nebat Sutliffe 50
Hannah Sutliffe 56
Allan Richardson 31


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have to go get hubby up & ready for work so will be back shortley thanks for any help while i.m away from my pc

jacky