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23 Apr 2009 04:45 |
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morning all i wonder if you could help me locate NEBAT SUTCLIFF/SUTCLIFFE i have found him in the 1861/71/91 census he was born 1852/53 beeston leeds yorkshire i have found his marriage in 1883 to hannah richardson in pontefract in yorkshire what i can.t find is a birth or death for him i.m trying find out who his parents were from the census i know his mother was rachel would love to know who his father was & his mothers maiden name & where he was in 1881/1901
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1861 England Census about Nebat Sutcliffe Name: Nebat Sutcliffe Age: 8 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853 Relation: Son Mother's Name: Rachel Gender: Male Where born: Beeston, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Beeston Ecclesiastical parish: Beeston County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Hunslet Sub registration district: Holbeck ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 48 Household Members: Name Age Rachel Sutcliffe 45 Isaac Sutcliffe 24 Jacob Sutcliffe 21 Sugden Sutcliffe 19 Enoch Sutcliffe 10 Nebat Sutcliffe 8
thank you very much in advance for your time & any help given kind regards jacky
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FAIRTHORN
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23 Apr 2009 05:08 |
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1861 census from another website
SUTCLIFFE, Rachel Head Widow F 45 1816 Little Horton Yorkshire SUTCLIFFE, Isaac Son Unmarried M 24 1837 Coal Miner Little Horton Yorkshire SUTCLIFFE, Jacob Son Unmarried M 21 1840 Mine Labourer Coal Little Horton Yorkshire SUTCLIFFE, Sugden Son Unmarried M 19 1842 Coal Miner Little Horton Yorkshire SUTCLIFFE, Enoch Son M 10 1851 Coal Hurrier Beeston Yorkshire SUTCLIFFE, Nebat Son M 8 1853 Scholar Beeston Yorkshire RG number: RG09 Piece: 3361 Folio: 81 Page: 10 Registration District: Hunslet Sub District: 6 Holbeck EnumerationDistrict: 6 Ecclesiastical Parish: Chapelry of Beeston Civil Parish: Leeds Beeston Municipal Borough: Leeds Address: 1, Old Peacock, Leeds Beeston, Leeds County: Yorkshire (West Riding)
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Jacky
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23 Apr 2009 05:18 |
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thank you fairthorn so basically i need to try & find a male sutcliffe who died after nebat was born & the 1861 census can i just ask you what other site you got the other1861 census from many thanks for your time & infomation jacky
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Jacky
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23 Apr 2009 05:27 |
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have to go get hubby up & ready for work so will be back shortley thanks for any help while i.m away from my pc
jacky
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23 Apr 2009 06:15 |
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This looks like him in 1901. Alan Richardson is down as the stepson... Nebat is a coal miner
1901 England Census about Nebat Sutliffe Name: Nebat Sutliffe Age: 50 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Hannah Gender: Male Where born: Berston, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Brotherton Ecclesiastical parish: St Edward Town: Brotherton County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: Pontefract Sub registration district: Knottingley ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 59 Household Members: Name Age Nebat Sutliffe 50 Hannah Sutliffe 56 Allan Richardson 31 View Original Record
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Astra
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23 Apr 2009 06:20 |
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If this is the same family in 1841 there is no husband present and Rachel is noted as being Independent.
Isaac Sutcliff Age: 4 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837 Gender: Male Where born: Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Bradford Hundred: Morley County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England
Registration district: Bradford Sub registration district: Horton Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Rachael Sutcliff 20 Aram Sutcliff 5 Mary Sutcliff 5 Isaac Sutcliff 4 Jacob Sutcliff 1
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Lewella
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23 Apr 2009 06:22 |
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1851 England Census about Rachell Suttlecliff Name: Rachell Suttlecliff Age: 33 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1818 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Little Horton, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Beeston County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England
Condition as to marriage: hmmmm, widowed! I wonder if the Ramsden lodger has anything to do with this!! Registration district: Hunslet Sub registration district: Holbeck ED, institution, or vessel: 2a Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 62 Household Members: Name Age Rachell Suttlecliff 33 Abraham Suttlecliff 17 Mary Suttlecliff 16 Isaac Suttlecliff 14 Jacob Suttlecliff 11 Sugden Suttlecliff 9 Enock Paul Ransden Suttlecliff 9 Mo David Ramsden 50 (lodger) George Ramsden 14 Alfred Ramsden 7 Ann Ramsden 22
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Lewella
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23 Apr 2009 06:27 |
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As I suspected!!!
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Nebat Ramsden Name: Nebat Ramsden Year of Registration: 1853 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec District: Hunslet County: Yorkshire - West Riding Volume: 9b Page: 243
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Lewella
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23 Apr 2009 06:35 |
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Family Group Record Search Results | Download | Print Husband John Sutcliffe Pedigree Birth: About 1808 Of Little Horton, Bradford, Yorkshire, England Christening: Marriage: Death: Burial: Wife Rachel Sutcliffe Pedigree Birth: About 1812 Of Little Horton, Bradford, Yorkshire, England Christening: Marriage: Death: Burial: Children 1. Abraham Sutcliffe Pedigree Male Birth: 09 JAN 1834 Little Horton, Bradford, Yorkshire, England Christening: Death: Burial: 2. Mary Sutcliffe Pedigree Female Birth: 26 JAN 1835 Little Horton, Bradford, Yorkshire, England Christening: Death: Burial:
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Jacky
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23 Apr 2009 06:36 |
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WOW thank you to all you lovely people now i have to just work out who was a suttcliff & who was a ramsden lol guess a trip to the main records office in leeds & bradford is in order as it would cost me a fortune to buy all theses birth certs luckily i live in between both leeds & bradford once again thank you so much for all your time & infomation jacky
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Vicci
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23 Apr 2009 06:38 |
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????? Rachel Sutcliffe Pedigree Female
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: 1820 Horton, , Yorkshire, England Christening: Death: Burial:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: Johnathan Sutcliffe Family Mother: Hannah North
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Messages: Record submitted by a member of the LDS Church. The record often shows the name of the individual and his or her relationship to a descendant, shown as the heir, family representative, or relative. The original records are not indexed, and you may have to look at the film frame-by-frame to find the information you want. A family group record for this couple may be in the Family Group Record Collection; Archive Section. (See the Family History Library Catalog for the film number.) These records are alphabetical by name of the father or husband.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Film Number: 458554
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Gee
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23 Apr 2009 06:39 |
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Could this be Hannah. Un Married (Naughty girl)
1871 England Census about Alan Richardson Name: Alan Richardson Age: 4 months Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870 Relation: Son Mother's Name: Hannah Gender: Male Where born: Brotherton, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Brotherton Town: Brotherton County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address:
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Disability: View Image Registration district: Pontefract Sub registration district: Knottingley ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 103 Household Members: Name Age Hannah Richardson 28 Martha Ann Richardson 8 Tone Edward Richardson 5 Walter Richardson 4 Alan Richardson 4 months
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Jacky
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23 Apr 2009 06:41 |
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hi ginny that looks like her my goodness lots of shinnanigans going on in this family lol thank you
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Lewella
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23 Apr 2009 06:45 |
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England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Enoch Paul Sutcliff Name: Enoch Paul Sutcliff Year of Registration: 1850 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Hunslet County: Yorkshire - West Riding Volume: 23 Page: 306
I'm guessing with the added name Ramsden in the 1851 census that Mr Ramsden might have had something to do with his creation as well
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Jacky
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23 Apr 2009 06:50 |
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the plot thickens lol its a bit of a mess lol going to have try & sort out who belong to MR RAMSDEN & who doesn.t why did our rellies make it so difficult for his to trace who was who lol thank you
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Gee
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23 Apr 2009 07:00 |
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Jacky it looks like you need to research...Sutcliffe, Ramsden and dont forget the stepson..Richardson!
makes life interesting :O)
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Jacky
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23 Apr 2009 07:08 |
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hi ginny thank you for all your help i will indeed have to look into the sutcliffe /ramsdens but think i may take a few asprin befor i do lol
many thanks to everyone who has spent time looking & for infomation given
jacky
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Lewella
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23 Apr 2009 07:17 |
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Well, you didn't think it was going to be easy with a name like Nebat, did you? LOL :-)
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Gee
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23 Apr 2009 07:54 |
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Nebat didnt die as a ramsden between 1901 and 1911 I have checked the index manually
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Dea
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23 Apr 2009 08:55 |
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How about this one??
Deaths Dec 1912 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sutcliffe Nebut 62 Pontefract 9c 110
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