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will keep this bookmarked ,if you get the birth cert and want to post parents details .

Hi Janice....These stratfords are very mysterious....I am in contact with someone who also have the same Stratfords and we cannot find anything out about them...Why I don't know......They are not on the 1861 or 1871 census and Thomas appears on the 1881 census as living in Chester in Cheshire and a Botanist ...Margaret

Just wondered if he gave same birth details for himself on later census years as it does change sometimes!! and may give a link to the parents

Yes Janice I have children for Thomas......But it was his father and mother I was trying to find and maybe brothers and sisters...yes I will send for a birth certificate....Margaret

perhaps you might like to try sending for a birth cert. If you ask for a check against fathers name if it is'nt John then thy dont send the cert and refund part of the cost
do you have children for Thomas /Mary to help find them on later census years?

Hi Janice....I have been trying to find a marriage for John Stratford and the only ones I can find married a louisa.......Thomas married in the Isle of man and the witnesses are Charles Hall and Thomas Henry kelly and I don't think they sound as if they are related to thomas or Mary Connor..Margaret

why you think mother is called Louisa?
what other names are on the marriage cert? i.e witnesses

possible birth indexes
Births Mar 1858

Stratford Thomas Birmingham 6d 81

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Births Sep 1858
Stratford Thomas Aston 6d 240

Thankx for trying Margaret.....I cannot seem to find anything on these stratfords...Margaret

Margaret, I had tried John Stra* on both 1861 and 1871. No luck. Also tried Thomas Stra* born 1858. Just tried Strattford. Still no luck.

Can somebody check the 1861 and 1871 census for John stratford spelt as John Strattford as they changed spelling of names.Please Margaret

Hi Margaret....I am really stuck on this one as not only can I not find John Stratford but also cannot find Thomas ..I think maybe they moved around alot and they were'nt entered on them........I have found Thomas on the 1881 census as being married to a Mary Conner in Cheshire.....but cannot find anything out about him before then only his birth in Birmingham in 1858.....They are a mystery...Margaret

Hi Sablon...Thomas was born in Birmingham in 1858.....I typed in the wrong date ..sorry but have now changed it to 1858 which is correct...margaret

I couldn't find them on either the 61 or 71 census, Margaret.
Margaret

for ref
is this thomas's birth if so it matches first census

Births Sep 1867
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Stratford Thomas John Cirencester 6a 342


The district Cirencester spans the boundaries of the counties of Gloucestershire and Wiltshire;

Hi Sablon...I think they are both possibles.....Margaret

Hi Margaret.....It could be either of them could'nt it....well done..Margaret....Do you have access to the 1861 and 1871 census as I would like to know if Thomas is on them...Thanks Margaret

also this one but married

Household Record 1881 British Census

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Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Alfred H.W. BLAKE Head M Male 25 Tamworth, Stafford, England Under Graduate Oxford School Teacher
Annie M. BLAKE Wife M Female 22 Malvern, Worcester, England
Frances A. BLAKE Mother W Female 53 Tamworth, Stafford, England
John GEDDES Boarder U Male 22 Florence Ct, Ireland School Teacher Under Graduate Of Dublin
John TURLEY Boarder U Male 14 Malvern, Worcester, England Scholar
Harry TURLEY Boarder U Male 12 Worcester, Worcester, England Scholar
Alfred TURLEY Boarder U Male 11 Worcester, Worcester, England Scholar
Llewellyn JONES Boarder U Male 10 Llandudno, Wales Scholar
Charles K. COX Boarder U Male 9 Lynton Scholar
John STRATFORD Serv M Male 55 Stanway, Gloucester, England Gardner Domestic
Anne STRATFORD Serv M Female 66 Cranham, Gloucester, England Matron Domestic Sch Serv.
Rosanna GRENDON Serv U Female 17 Malvern, Worcester, England Housemaid Domestic
Hannah STRATFORD Serv U Female 14 Sedgeborough, Gloucester, England Housemaid Domestic


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Source Information:
Dwelling Barnards Green Rd 38 Lansdowne Cres
Census Place Great Malvern, Worcester, England
Family History Library Film 1341700
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 2920 / 8
Page Number 10

i know you did not ask for 1881 but found this he was a widower

Household Record 1881 British Census

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Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
William DAY Head M Male 43 Cirencester, Gloucester, England Omnibus Driver
Fanny DAY Wife M Female 41 Sapperton, Gloucester, England
Charlotte LOUGHTON Visitor U Female 51 Fyfield, Gloucester, England Retired Servant
John STRATFORD Boarder W Male 64 Cirencester, Gloucester, England Gr... & Gardener


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Source Information:
Dwelling 15 Gloster St
Census Place Cirencester, Gloucester, England
Family History Library Film 1341616
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 2555 / 7
Page Number 7

Could either one of these be the marriage?

Marriages Mar 1845 (>99%)
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HANKS William Kensington 3 208
Herring Martha Blanche Kensington 3 208
House Jane Kensington 3 208
LIDDY James Kensington 3 208
***SINGLETON Louisa Kensington 3 208
***STRATFORD John Tipper Kensington 3 208
Williams Ann Kensington 3 208



Marriages Dec 1847 (>99%)
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GREEN Arthur Marylebone 1 212
HILL Elizabeth Marylebone 1 212
JAMES Mary Ann Marylebone 1 212
Loder Margaret Marylebone 1 212
MACE George Marylebone 1 212
MAY John Marylebone 1 212
***Stratford John Thomas Marylebone 1 212
STRATFORD Joseph Thomas Marylebone 1 212
***Wilstone Louisa Marylebone 1 212

Hi Pollypoppet....I know he had a son called thomas Stratford born in 1858 as I have his marriage certificate that is how i found out his fathers name was john..Many thanks margaret