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HELP TO LOCATE GRAN IN 1911 CENSUS Still not found

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Kathleen

Kathleen Report 11 Apr 2009 13:25

Hi, can anyone find my gran on the 1911 census, I have credits so I am not asking you to buy the record, its just that I cant find her in the search boxes. I have found the record for her father but she is not living with him. I believe she had a sister Gertrude that was married and traveling the country at this time so my gran may have been with her. Here is the family in the 1901 census for ref.

Elizabeth Lister age 63 abt 1838 Penrith, Cumberland, England Grandmother, Elswick Northumberland
William O Jordan 36 abt 1865 Embleton, Northumberland, England finisher in shell factory Head Elswick Northumberland
John R Jordan 13 abt 1888 Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, Son Elswick Northumberland he died in 1905
Gertrude M Jordan 12abt 1889 Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, Daughter Elswick Northumberland
Thomas W Jordan 11 abt 1890 Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, Son Elswick Northumberland
James H Jordan 10 abt 1891 Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, Son Elswick Northumberland
*Hetty E Jordan 8 abt 1893 Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, Daughter Elswick Northumberland *

My Gran was Hettie jordan, she married in 1913 so would be age abt 18 and single in 1911. Her sister was called Gertrude Maud Jordan but I belive she was married to a man named Cresswell, but I have never found her living with him.

If you can locate my gran in the 1911 cenus can you give me the details so that I can buy the census record.
Thanks so much for taking the time to read this if you can help please do
Kathy

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 11 Apr 2009 13:57

Ah ,solved that puzzle

this one is your gran,spelt differently.

Births Jun 1893 (>99%)
Jordan Hettie Elizabeth Newcastle T. 10b 133

Edit ..that was me deleting my wrong hettie!!

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 11 Apr 2009 14:00

Thats the one I just deleted bobtail as it is a different hetty.
we need Hettie

Kathleen

Kathleen Report 11 Apr 2009 14:03

hi thanks for your help on this one. I have found a marriage that I think is for Gertrude. Gertrude Maud Jordan 1907 in Newcastle upon Tyne. My Gran, Hettie or Hetty, was born Byker Newcastle Northumberland in 1893, I have her birth cert, she married in 1913. I know she left home young as she did not get on with her fathers partner, who was actually down as a servent living with William jordan in 1911. I thought she may have been living with her sister Gertrude, but of course I am only assuming so she could be anywhere. Does that help narrow down the search at all, hope so I have tried all combinations on the 1911 census and she does not show up at all. Her husband Richard Chaters who she married in 1913 does not seem to want to be found either. He was living in Gateshead in 1901, his father dies in 1905. His siblings were:
William Chaters 1883
Sarah Jane ………. 1889
Benny ………1898
John ……… 1893
Edward ………. 1900
Mary Ann ………. 1895
His mother was Sarah Jane Chaters. the name Chaters has been spelt several ways over diff census, Chators Chater, chaytor ect, so its not easy to keep tabs on them. Richard was born Maryport Cumberland in 1886. I though that they may have been together in 1911 but nothing shows up for either of them, its the first time I have tried searching 1911 as I have had to wait for Durham and Northumberland records to be added, it would be great to find either one of them.
Thanks Kathy

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 11 Apr 2009 14:05

The rest of the ,,gertrude cresswell ,,household in 1911
No Hettie though

HOUSEHOLD CRESSWELL FREDERICK M 1879 32 Newcastle upon Tyne Northumberland
HOUSEHOLD CRESSWELL GEORGE M 1888 23 Newcastle upon Tyne Northumberland
HOUSEHOLD CRESSWELL JOHN HALLDEN F 1849 62 Newcastle upon Tyne Northumberland

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 11 Apr 2009 14:09

Yes gertrudes marriage ,,but no spouse

Marriages Sep 1907 (>99%)
JORDAN Gertrude Maud Newcastle T. 10b 55

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 11 Apr 2009 14:14

1911

HOUSEHOLD CHATERS RICHARD M 1887 24 Newcastle upon Tyne Northumberland

Kathleen

Kathleen Report 11 Apr 2009 14:15

hi again, yes I have the one in london now, but her full name was Hetty elizabeth and there is a one for Leicestershire age 17, I think I will give that one a try and see what it brings up, I will get back to you when I get the record, in the mean time has anyone had any luck with Richard Chaters, her husband. they married in Gateshead Durham and ived there for a number of years, Richard was a coal miner.
Be back soon
Kathy

Kathleen

Kathleen Report 11 Apr 2009 14:18

Dam its not her she is the daughter of a Thomas Jordan, and no relation to my family line. Back to the drawing board.

Eames

Eames Report 11 Apr 2009 14:18

That's what I spotted too in BMD

Sep 1907

CRESSWELL Frederick Newcastle T. 10b 53

Kathleen

Kathleen Report 11 Apr 2009 14:21

I have tried the record for the Hetty in London and its not her either.

Kathleen

Kathleen Report 11 Apr 2009 14:25

hi, I have the record for Richard Chaters he is living as a border with a family called Little. Hetty is not on the census form. but I think it is my Richard so I am getting somewhere.
Thanks
Kathy

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 11 Apr 2009 14:27

The hetty in leictershire is not yours as that is the one i deleted earlier
her parents were thomas and ellen on 1901

RICHARD CHATERS,but no Hetty / hettie

LITTLE, ROBERT ANDERSON HEAD MARRIED 6 M 25 COAL MINER HEWER HAMSTERLEY DURHAM
LITTLE, RACHEL HANNAH WIFE MARRIED F 25 CONSETT DURHAM
LITTLE, ELLEEN DAUGHTER SINGLE F 5 CONSETT DURHAM
LITTLE, VIOLET RAY DAUGHTER SINGLE F 3 U S A AMERICA RESIDENT
CHATERS, RICHARD BOARDER SINGLE M 24 COAL MINER HEWER DURHAM CUMBERLAND

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 11 Apr 2009 14:29

i repeat the cresswells in 1911

The rest of the ,,gertrude cresswell ,,household in 1911
No Hettie though

HOUSEHOLD CRESSWELL FREDERICK M 1879 32 Newcastle upon Tyne Northumberland
HOUSEHOLD CRESSWELL GEORGE M 1888 23 Newcastle upon Tyne Northumberland
HOUSEHOLD CRESSWELL JOHN HALLDEN F 1849 62 Newcastle upon Tyne Northumberland

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 11 Apr 2009 14:33

Was your grandmother Hetty/Hettie a suffaragette?[gee i cant spell that}
If she was she may not have been on the 1911 as they refused to be on it as part of their fight for the vote!!
they went to great lengths to avoid being on it.
And one woman just wrote accross the form that

If I am intelligent enough to fill this form in then I am intellegent enough to put an X on a voting paper.

And that was all that was on it!

viv

Kathleen

Kathleen Report 11 Apr 2009 14:43

Thanks for the info on the Cresswell's you seem to have them all ok. I dont think my gran was a suffreget, but there was a storey of her going away to have a baby, and I believe Gertrude may have taking the child as her own. I have looked for births for a jordan toa jordan, and there was this one; Births Sep 1911 Jordan George A Jordan Wolverhampton 6b 1048. Although I dont knew if it was true or not and have not gone into it any further. I cant find a search box for Wolverhampton on 1911, so cant rule it out as yet. Any ideas what area that came under. this is all Whisperd gossip, I dont know if there is any truth in it, but in 1911 it would have been hushes up.
Funny enough I think I do recall Gertrude had a son called George, so...
he was also her only child.
Thanks again
Kathy

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 11 Apr 2009 14:48

Wolverhampton is Staffordshire I believe.
viv

Kathleen

Kathleen Report 12 Apr 2009 19:26

Hi, I still have not found my gran in 1911 census, I have credits for the site, so I can bye the images if only I could find her, if anyone can help or give me advice on how to go about tracing her I would be very gratefull

Please help if you can
Kathy

Selena in South East London

Selena in South East London Report 12 Apr 2009 19:45

There are these but the ages are out. the F might be a mistranscribed E.

JORDAN HETTIE F 1898 13 Sedgefield Durham

JORDAN HETTY F 1891 20 Kensington London

Kathleen

Kathleen Report 12 Apr 2009 20:04

Thanks Silina, my gran was born 1893, she would have been abt 18yr in 1911. She must be somewhere, but where, I have tried loads of variasions and not found her.
Thanks for trying
Kathy