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trying to find relatives of nora curtis who lived

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Stevie

Stevie Report 7 May 2009 01:29

Ah you back Brian. I'm no further with this mate.

I'll e-mail you later today. Thurs 7th.

Steve

Brian

Brian Report 7 May 2009 00:13

are you any nearer to finding nora's relatives i have one but quite distant
my goal is to find one of her nearest relatives let me know what you think
brian

Brian

Brian Report 7 May 2009 00:11

steve i have moved my email address to a sky ac. very simalar to old but minus the world. and just .com could you email me i need to get back to this now i'm sorted.
brian

Stevie

Stevie Report 24 Mar 2009 14:45

Some more background info of parents of George (grand parents of Nora)

1861 Census
Name: Thomas Curtis
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Wurelington, Oxfordshire, England

Civil Parish: Newton
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage: View Image
Registration district: Rugby
Sub registration district: Crick
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 55
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Curtis 29
Sarah Curtis 26
Henry Lock 7
John Curtis 5
Ann Curtis 3
Mary Elizabeth Curtis 2
Thomas Curtis 11 Mo



Birth for Henry Lock (later shown as Henry Lock Curtis)
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Births Jun 1853
Lock Henry Rugby 6d 388
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Marriage for Thomas Curtis & Sarah Lock
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Marriages Dec 1855 (>99%)
CURTIS Thomas Rugby 6d 631
LOCK Sarah Rugby 6d 631
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1891 Census.
Name: Thomas Curtis
Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Wardington, Oxfordshire, England

Civil Parish: St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: The Martyrs
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England
Employment status: View Image
Registration district: Leicester
Sub registration district: West Leicester
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Curtis 60
Sarah Curtis 57
Sarah Ann Curtis 26
Elizabeth Curtis 21
Harriet Phoebe Curtis 19
Ellen Ann Curtis 17
John Wm Brown 18

1901 Census.
Name: Sarah Curtis
Age: 67
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Churchover, Warwickshire, England
Civil Parish: Leicester Formerly St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: The Martyrs
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England
Employment status: View Image
Registration district: Leicester
Sub registration district: South Leicester
ED, institution, or vessel: 51
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 153
Household Members: Name Age
Sarah Curtis 67
Sarah A Curtis 36
Elizabeth A Curtis 31
Harriet Phebe Curtis 28


Probable Death for Thomas Curtis.
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Deaths Dec 1895
Curtis Thomas 64 Leicester 7a 150
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Probable Death for Sarah Curtis.
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Deaths Mar 1918
CURTIS Sarah 84 Leicester 7a 350
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Steve

Alison

Alison Report 15 Mar 2009 08:54

Irene had no direct descendants - she never married. George H and Stanley had children but I don't know names yet - family history has them living in California, as yet unproved.
I didn't know about Nora so cannot say whether she moved to Basingstoke - certainly don't know of any family living there, but wasn't until I started my research that I discovered George Snr and family living in Hampshire.
Cannot find death reference for George Snr either - again, family history has them emigrating but cannot find this at the moment.

Brian

Brian Report 14 Mar 2009 22:44

alison do you think nora and harold may have moved or lived in basingstoke not so far from my home where i found the postcards. d you know of relatives born there.
steevie will prob come up trumps this guy knows more than i will ever know. some people just have the knack. i wanted to send info to Southampton Evening Echo at some point but early yet as family need to be found in basingstoke area. Nora and harold may have taken family to usa given familys sucsess there.
brian.
lets try and contact direct dec of Irene, George Herbert and Stanley in the usa
brian

Brian

Brian Report 14 Mar 2009 22:32

we seem to be getting nearer to nora curtis hopefully some one will be able to add to this re her direct dec with i think harold smith there must be some one out there who can help. ive tried possibs in basing with know luck yet but time will help us here. and some good work in background.
alison may need to ask about nora good luck all hope to add you too info given so freely at the cost of spending time on your own tree's. I guess i'm included.

Alison

Alison Report 14 Mar 2009 14:34

George Curtis was my 2x great uncle. He was married twice - first time to Mary Frances Brown, 2 children Frances Irene (Reenie) and George Herbert; second time to Caroline Gertrude M Greenwood, 3 children Stanley, Doris and now Nora.
Irene, George Herbert and Stanley all emigrated to Pennsylvania, USA. Doris died in early infancy.
George Snr's youngest sister was my great grandmother - Ellen.
I have had contact with Brian Cove and given him all this information - Clements not Clement is my family tree - Alison on here and ali on ancestry.
I did not have any further info on George and his family as I have not yet subscribed to the 1911 census.
Nora has a cousin still living - my great uncle, my dad and his 3 brothers are also still living, as are many other cousins all directly linked to the Curtis line.
I have looked for further information on Nora and Harold C Smith without any success as yet.
Alison

Stevie

Stevie Report 11 Mar 2009 20:05

And here is Thomas, Sarah & children in 1881 Census

Name: Thomas Curtis
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Wroughton, Oxfordshire, England
Civil Parish: Cosby
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England
Street address: Main Street (Yard)
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:
Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Waggoner Carman
Registration district: Blaby
Sub registration district: Enderby
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Curtis 50
Sarah Curtis 46
John Curtis 25 ...occupation Railway Labourer
Mary E. Curtis 21 occupation Boot Upper Maker
William Curtis 17 Cow Boy (Ag Lab)
Edward Curtis 13
Elizabeth A. Curtis 11
Harriet P. Curtis 9... b1872 Harborough Fields, Warwickshire, England
Ellen A. Curtis 7... b1874 Harborough Fields, Warwickshire, England

Stevie

Stevie Report 11 Mar 2009 19:10

1871 Census. Parents & Siblings of George Curtis.

Name: Thomas Curtis
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Wardington, Oxfordshire, England
Civil Parish: Harborough Magna
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Town: Harborough Magna
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street address: No address shown
Occupation: Agricultural Labourer
Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Rugby
Sub registration district: Rugby
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 2
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Curtis 40 ...b1831 Wardington, Oxford Shire occupation Agricultural Labourer
Sarah Curtis 37..b1834 Churchover Warwickshire
Henry Lock Curtis 17... b1854 Churchover Warwickshire
John Curtis 15...b1856 Cosford, Warwickshire
Mary Elizabeth Curtis 12...b1859 Cosford, Warwickshire
Thomas Curtis 10..b1861, Harborough Magna, Warwickshire
George Curtis 8...b1863, Cosford, Warwickshire
Sarah Ann Curtis 6..b1865, Cosford, Warwickshire
William Curtis 5...b1866, Cosford, Warwickshire
Edward Curtis 3 ..b1868, Harborough Magna, Warwickshire,
Elizabeth Ann Curtis 1...b1870 Harborough Magna, Warwickshire,

Stevie

Stevie Report 11 Mar 2009 18:23

Doris Curtis appears in 1901 census but not in 1911,

Found this death registration for her;.

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Deaths Dec 1903

Curtis Doris Mary Age 2yrs S. Stoneham 2c 20
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Stevie

Stevie Report 9 Mar 2009 19:42

To keep the information found together. Here's the info I today

1901 Census

Name: George Curtis
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Gertrude C M
Gender: Male
Where born: Cosford, Warwickshire, England
Civil Parish: Hound
Ecclesiastical parish: Hound St Edward or St Mary
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:.......Soldier Qtr Master Sergeant, Staff
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:
Employment status: View Image
Registration district: South Stoneham
Sub registration district: St Mary Extra
ED, institution, or vessel: Royal Victoria Hospital
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George Curtis 38
Gertrude C M Curtis 30
Irene Curtis 11 ......Daughter born 1890 in Aldershot
Herbert Curtis 10....Son born 1891 in Aldershot
Stanley Curtis 2
Doris Curtis 3/12...Daughter born Dec1900 or Jan 01in Netley

So we've now found Herbert + 2 unknown sisters
Also this where the connection with the Royal Victoria Hospital comes in.
Also in the 1911 census, it says he & Gertrude where married for 11yrs. (Needs to be verified). If so then he was previously married...another mystery Mr Watson
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Births Mar 1901
Curtis Doris Mary S. Stoneham 2c 53
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Possible birth registration for Herbert
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Births Dec 1892

Curtis Herbert Portsea 2b 393 (Portsmouth Hants)
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And Birth registrations for Nora & Stanley found 08/03/09
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Births Mar 1902

Curtis Nora Constance S. Stoneham 2c 55
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And this the birth for Stanley
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Births Sep 1898

Curtis Stanley John S. Stoneham 2c 62
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Steve

Vicci

Vicci Report 8 Mar 2009 23:44

in genes reunited click on the button that says Search Trees

enter the details about George Curtis and it should find the 2 trees that I referred to

you can then click on "find out more" and send a message to the tree owner.

for the one on ancestry
copy and paste the link I gave onto your internet browser and hopefully the tree will come up and you can click on the tree owners name and contatc them. If you ahve problems with that then let me know.

Brian

Brian Report 8 Mar 2009 23:27

how can i do that sorry a bit new to this
brian

Vicci

Vicci Report 8 Mar 2009 23:20

Yes the Clement family tree has Nora's parent's on but Nora left off probably as was born after the 1901 census and maybe the tree owner did not know about her.

The Clements in the tree all seem to come from Leicester

It would be worth contacting the tree owner ali and also the 2 on GR.

Brian

Brian Report 8 Mar 2009 23:03

victoria are you saying that nora maybe connected to clement tree
funny thing is my nan was clement and also lived in same area
am i going to find that these postcards may well connect to my family?

Vicci

Vicci Report 8 Mar 2009 22:58

there are 2 trees on GR with George Curtis

George 1863 Cosford, Warwickshire, England tree owner
Cindy
George 1862 Cosford, Warwickshire, England tree owner Alison

Brian

Brian Report 8 Mar 2009 22:57

i have just found nora born 1902
nora constance curtis jfm 1902 south stoneham looks right and just read marr nora c curtis match it seems.
we are geeting there wow. cheers guys.

Vicci

Vicci Report 8 Mar 2009 22:52

these might be the children of Nora

Births Sep 1929 (>99%)
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Smith Beryl J Curtis Basingstoke 2c 390

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Births Mar 1932 (90%)
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Smith Edna D Curtis Basingstoke 2c 342

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Births Jun 1933 (>99%)
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SMITH Phyllis J Curtis Bournemouth 2b 935

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Births Dec 1934 (92%)
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Smith Cyril R Curtis Basingstoke 2c 353

Vicci

Vicci Report 8 Mar 2009 22:48

this might be the marraige of Nora

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page

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Marriages Mar 1924 (>99%)
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Curtis Nora C Smith S.Stoneham 2c 138
Diaper Louisa Hall S. Stoneham 2c 138
Hall Harry G Diaper S.Stoneham 2c 138
>>Smith Harold C Curtis S.Stoneham 2c 138

***I have also found this tree on ancestry that has George and Gertrude and children (but not Nora)

http://trees.ancestry.co.uk/pt/person.aspx?tid=27760&pid=-2144159686
Clements family tree owner ali356