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Hi Evie - there were no URLS - since you told me off I always look for them - there were none!!!

Hi Eric - Mark posted at 11.27 to say thanks but it's in the middle of a pile of data so perhaps you missed it

Ann X

Mark - please reply in the thread and not by PM. It makes me (and all of us) nuts. If you look at the message you sent me, it doesn't even have a name in it! By tomorrow I'd have no clue what it was about.

And when you get your certs, be sure to post the info in the thread here so we can all see the outcome!

The child could be living with a married aunt (or older sister), is one possibility. You could use FreeBMD to try to find a marriage to check whether the wife in the couple has the same surname.

Good lord, AnnGG. Are those people actually related, or just random Tricketts??

(But won't you at least give *source URLs* when you copy such stuff?)

John Barber TRICKETT (1822-1867)
John Barber TRICKETT was baptised at Bradfield, Yorkshire on 21 April 1822. He was the son of John and Maria TRICKETT who lived at Storrs and his father's occupation is shown as 'Farmer'. In the 1841 Census he lived in Dronfield, Derbyshire where he was an 'Assistant' in a Boarding School.

On 13 January 1844 John Barber TRICKETT married Mary Ann Hydes at the Parish Church in Rotherham. On the Marriage Certificate he gives his profession as ‘School Master’ and his place of residence Rotherham. His Father’s name is given as John TRICKETT, a farmer. Mary Ann Hydes gives no occupation and her address as Dronfield in the County of Derby. Her Father’s name was Thomas Tarn Hydes and he was also a farmer.

It would appear that Mary Ann Hydes was baptised on 24 September 1820 in Dronfield but the 1851 Census gives her age as 29, suggesting a later birth year. In that Census we find John Barber TRICKETT (a schoolmaster aged 29), Mary Ann Trickett and John TRICKETT (aged 7) living with Mary Ann’s Mother, Elizabeth Hydes (aged 49). Elizabeth Hydes is referred to in the Census as ‘Farmer, Widow, Head of Household’. Also in the property in Coal Aston, Derbyshire is Thomas T Hydes (a farmer of 126 acres, aged 28), Harriet Hydes (aged 24), William Hydes (aged 22) and a George Roberts (born in Chesterfield in 1838 and referred to as ‘nephew’).

At this stage I do not know how many children John and Mary Ann had in addition to those set out in the 1861 Census.

John Thomas TRICKETT was born on 20 February 1844 at Hallows, Coalaston, Derbyshire. On 8 September 1870 her married Sarah Ann Wilson at St John's Church, Sheffield. Sarah Ann died at Outhtibridge on 18 August 1875 aged 29. A few months later, on 22 December 1875, John Thomas married Emily Mellor - Emily was a 21 year old spinster from Sheepbridge, Chesterfield. Like his father John was Registrar of Births and Deaths in Bradfield when he died, aged 38, on 14 March 1882.

William Henry TRICKETT was born on 22 December 1851. William died of tuberculosis on 21 November 1884 at St John's Road, Newbold, Chesterfield. He was only 33 years old and his daughter, my grandmother, was born six months after his death.

Arnold Hydes TRICKETT was born on 1 November 1856 at Cold Well, Onesacre, Bradfield in Yorkshire. After many hours of research I can find no trace of Arnold Hydes, other than a single reference to a Hydes Trickett, aged 15, living with his aunt (Elizabeth Hydes) at the time of the 1871 Census. In 1888 his brother George called one of his children after him.

George TRICKETT was born on 26 March 1860, also at Bradfield. There is no trace of George in the 1871 Census but in the 1881 Census he was a labourer, aged 21 and living with his mother. In 1886 George married Mary Elizabeth Champion in Sheffield and they had three children: Nellie born in 1887, Arnold Hydes born in 1888 and Blanche in 1890. There was no change in the family in either the 1891 or 1901 Censuses. George TRICKETT died on 1 April 1926 at Sheffield.


John Barber TRICKETT died on 29 September 1867 aged 45. The cause of death on his death certificate is given as 'Lumbar Meningitis'. Earlier in his life John had been a schoolteacher but on the 1861 Census, and his death certificate, John was Registrar of Births and Deaths for the Bradfield District of Wortley, County of West Riding. His death certificate is signed by the Deputy Registrar - his son John Thomas TRICKET, who took over the post from his father. John Barber TRICKETT was buried at Bradfield on 3 October 1867. Mary Ann was 63 when she died in 1884. She was buried at Bradfield on 10 April.

More questions, I see.......how about a word of thanks?

No, no idea......not psychic!

Trickett of WickersleyElizabeth Trickett (1826-1907) born Bradfield Sheffield, married George Avill



Listed in the 1833 directory was William Trickett, shopkeeper; also listed was a William Trickett, Farmer.

Sourced from 1891 census

James Trickett,born 1835, aged 57,a Stone Quarry Owner,and Employer,Employing 4 Men & 1 Boy,born in Wickersley Yorkshire
Mary Trickett (Nee Saxton),Wife,born 1839, aged 52,born in Whiston Yorkshire,
Lydia Ellen Saxton,born 1868, Niece,single, aged 23,a dressmaker,born in Wickersley


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Thomas Trickett, Head,married, aged 35,a Fish Dealer, born in Wickersley
Frances M Trickett, aged 33, born in Edgemount Derbyshire,
James Trickett,Son, aged 10,a Scholar, born in Islington London,
George Trickett,Son, aged 7,aScholar, born in Wickersley
Maria Trickett,Dau, aged 4, born in Wickersley
Edward Trickett,Son, aged 5 months, born in Wickersley


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Thomas Trickett,born 1838, aged 53, a Stone Quarry Mason,born in Wickersley
Charlotte Trickett,Wife, aged 49, born 1842, East Hardwicke Yorkshire,
Thomas W Trickett,Son, aged 6,a Scholar, born Wickersley Yorkshire,
George H Randerson,Boardr,aged 7 months, born Wickersley

The 1881 census lists other children, born in Wickersley:

Joe¹ born 1867, Son age 14
Emma TRICKETT born 1871 Daughter age 10
Walter TRICKETT born 1874 , Son age 7
Reginald TRICKETT born 1876 , Son age 5
Sarah Ellen TRICKETT born 1879 Daughter age

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George Trickett,Head,Widower, aged 60,a Hawker,born Wickersley
Fredrick Scholey,Head,married, aged 34,a Stone Quarry Owner,born at Dalton Magna Yorkshire,
Jane E Scholey,his wife, aged 45, born at Rawcliffe Bridge Yorkshire,
James Trickett,son,single, aged 21, a Stone Quarry Owner,born Wickersley
Martha Jane Trickett,daughter, single, aged 18,born at Dalton Magna. Married Samuel Padley .
William Trickett,son, aged 16,a Brass Fitter, born at Dalton Mag,
Joseph Trickett,grandson aged 10 months, born at Wickersley


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Edward Trickett,Head,married, aged 30, a Grocer, born Wickersley
Jane Trickett,Wife,aged 43 born Wickersley
Mary A Trickett,daughter, aged 9,a scholar born Wickersley
Rozalind Trickett, daughter, aged 8, a scholar born Wickersley
Blanche Trickett, daughter, aged 6, a scholar born Wickersley

Joe¹ (Quarry owner) and Jane Elizabeth Trickett had a son Joe, christened at St. Albans, Wickersley by Rev. Freeman on Oct 24 1866.

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Data by county
Shropshire Trickett is the 48th surname 1 779 people
Dorset Trickett is the 63rd surname 1 731 people
Hampshire Trickett is the 265th surname 1 817 people


all about the name Trickett :
Geographical spread - Data by county - Sorted by county

Has anyone any clues as to why an 11 year old would be living with a family which doesnt look related.

John William Trickett Compact Disc #49 Pin #488336 Pedigree
Sex: M

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Event(s)
Birth: abt 1880

Mexborough, South Yorkshire

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Parents
Father: John Trickett Disc #49 Pin #488333
Mother: Annie Elizabeth Hanby Disc #49 Pin #487129

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Marriage(s)
Spouse: Elizabeth Holmes Disc #49 Pin #488345
Marriage:



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Notes and Sources
Notes: None
Sources: None

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Submitter
David HANBY
23 Plumpton Avenue Mexborough, S. Yorkshire S64 0QP


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a different researcher here

thanks everyone just making notes of all your comments and i will work my way through peoples messages and hopefully get my research further back...

For place name........google,google, google!!!!!!

Possible marriage........Oswald's birth cert will tell you MMN

Marriages Dec 1869 (>99%)
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ANDERTON John Haslingden 8e 229
Earnshaw Esther Haslingden 8e 229
TRICKETT John Haslingden 8e 229
YATES Sarah Haslingden 8e 229

John Trickett Compact Disc #21 Pin #473230 Pedigree
Sex: M

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Event(s)
Birth: 1858

Sheffield, Yorkshire

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Parents
Father: John Trickett Disc #21 Pin #473111
Mother: Matilda Wheatley Disc #21 Pin #473132

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Notes and Sources
Notes: None
Sources: Available on CD-ROM Disc# 21

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Submitter
Paul DEAN
16 Cowrakes Lane, Whiston, Rotherham, South Yorkshire S60 4AF. UK



why not contact this fellow researcher - Paul Dean?

This MAY be John in 1861...................

Name: John Tricket
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Higher Booths
Ecclesiastical parish: Goodshaw All Saints
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Haslingden
Sub registration district: Rossendale
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 4
Household Members: Name Age
Joshua Maden 38
Martha Maden 37
John Maden 12
James Maden 10
Thomas Maden 3
Joshua Maden 1
John Tricket 11

I must emphasise that NONE of the info posted can be taken as 'confirmation'.........you need to follow through each generation by getting certs.....................

Well that one's only about a century too old, AnnGG!

Perhaps a more distant ancestor ...

OSWALD TRICKETT Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 22 APR 1798 Cathedral Saint Peter, Sheffield, Yorkshire, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: JOHN TRICKETT Family
Mother: ANN

1871...........

Name: Albert Trickott
Age: 4 months
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Chatterton, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Tottington Higher End
Ecclesiastical parish: Edenfield
Town: Chatterton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Haslingden
Sub registration district: Edenfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 34
Household Members: Name Age
John Trickott 22
Sarah Trickott 24
Albert Trickott 4 months

Yes, EtheR, I was just about to do that. ;)

Strange questions ...

Er ... what?

You have Oswald's birth cert and it says his father was John.

Have you found them together in a census? That would give you an indication of when John was born.

You haven't said where this was. The default assumption is England, but one never knows.

A little more info? Maybe the mother's name? the location? Have you found the record of the marriage (since presumably you have both parents' names)?

What I'm not getting is how anyone would be able to confirm any of this ...