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Lynn

Lynn Report 4 Jan 2009 12:47

hi, hope someone out there can help me, im trying to get info on my grandfather, he was born in wales, i think his name was john, date of birth around 1910, he married a queenie florence from london and have 6 sons, thats the only info i have on him, if anyone could help with any small bit of info it will be much appreciated.

Diane

Diane Report 4 Jan 2009 12:48

Was John his first name or surname?

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!)

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!) Report 4 Jan 2009 13:07

Which of your parents is he connected to?

You need that birth cert - which would give you his name and his wife's name ...

Jill

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!)

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!) Report 4 Jan 2009 15:06

From Lynn:

he is from my fathers side, all i know is he married a queenie florence and they had 6 sons, my father being the last born in 1941 in stoke on trent

From Lynn

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!)

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!) Report 4 Jan 2009 15:07

I've sent Lynn a pm asking her to come back to her thread.

Lynn - if he is your father's father can we assume he has the same surname as your father? In which case, what is his surname?

Jill

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 4 Jan 2009 15:13


lynns surname is evans by the look of it but of course that may be her married name?
vvienne

Lynn

Lynn Report 4 Jan 2009 17:49

grandfathers name was john evans, born in wales, he married a queenie florence powell, who was from london, i do not have my fathers birth certificate as he died 10 years ago.

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 4 Jan 2009 17:55

I'm afraid a John Evans from Wales is not going to be an easy find - there will be thousands of them.

Kath. x

Lynn

Lynn Report 4 Jan 2009 17:58

i think he was born in 1901, his middle name was cliffard

Battenburg

Battenburg Report 4 Jan 2009 18:23

Have you looked for John Clifford Evans death?

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!)

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!) Report 4 Jan 2009 23:19

First things first - you need your father's birth cert to make sure you have your grandparents' names correctly.

Then, advisably, get your grandparents' marriage cert.

Then, go backwards from there - with a name like John Evans it would be easy to go wrong.

Jill

Lynn

Lynn Report 5 Jan 2009 16:40

i have looked for my grandmothers marriage certificate, as i have all her details, unfortunatley i cant seem to find it in the records, im really stuck with this one, all i know of my grandad, is his name was john clifford evans, or clifford john evans and he was born in wales, (that place with a long name), other that that nothing, i have even asked family members, no one seems to remember anything

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 5 Jan 2009 18:51

I know this is a long shot but there is this birth of a John C. Evans registered in Bangor which covers Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch, if thats the place you mean. He would be about the right age to marry and have six children by 1941.

Name: John C Evans
Year of Registration: 1910
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Bangor
County: Anglesey, Caernarvonshire, Gwynedd
Volume: 11b
Page: 387

Kath. x

Battenburg

Battenburg Report 5 Jan 2009 18:52

Queenie Florence Powell 1910 june qt Southwark vol 1d page 78.

So likely we are looking for a marriage 1928 onwards. Not on freebmds. Perhaps some kind soul with full index will look for the marriage

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 5 Jan 2009 19:04

I have found your grandparents marriage. This certificate will give you your grandfather's age and his father's name and occupation:-

Queenie F. Powell, spouse Evans
June qtr. 1933, Pontypridd, 11a, 1377

HOWEVER - there is a problem. The spouse is George W. Evans, not John or Clifford.

Kath. x

Lynn

Lynn Report 5 Jan 2009 19:10

thank you all so much for that information, i really appreciate it.

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 5 Jan 2009 19:15

Lynn,

I have made a mistake. The spouse may not be George W. Evans.

There were two marriages of Powell to Evans . The one in Pontypridd was not yours. I think it has been transcribed wrongly.

There is a Phyllis M. Powell marrying an Evans in Pontypridd
There is a Queenie F. Powell Marrying an Evans in Pontypridd
There is also a Queenie F. Powell marrying a John C. Evans in Hendon.

The Hendon marriage reference is:-

June qtr. 1933, Hendon, 3a, 1100

You will have to decide which Queenie F. Powell marriage to go for.

Kath. x

Battenburg

Battenburg Report 5 Jan 2009 19:22

Since Queenie is born in London the Hendon marriage looks more likely.

Kathleen can you look for deaths for them both to get the dates of birth?

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 5 Jan 2009 19:25

If the birth in 1910 is the correct Queenie, then this looks like her death:-

Name: Queenie Florence Evans
Birth Date: 4 Apr 1910
Death Registration Month/Year: Feb 1991
Age at death (estimated): 80
Registration district: Dover
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 16
Page: 1350

Kath. x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 5 Jan 2009 19:28

There are too many John C. Evans or Clifford J. Evans deaths to be sure of the right one. None registered in Dover.

Kath. x