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Yes, Janice! That would be THE ONE I POSTED several days ago in the other thread, where I said:

"There are two possibilities in the 1871 census, and I would guess this one:"

and posted exactly that 1871 census info. And then observed that there was "Only the *other* Frank in birth records".


Hey, hotchoc, YOU'RE EVER SO WELCOME!!!!

Why anybody wants to do work for you that has already been done for no thanks or even acknowledgement, I wouldn't know.

Thats kind of you to check Janice, thank you. Hes a tricky man to track! x

could it be the one i posted 1871
Name: Frank Middleton
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Pauper Where born: Plymouth
Civil Parish: [Charles]
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Plymouth Workhouse

Cannot find a birth index for him

I'm curious about "someone suggested his name may be incorrect".

What, was there yet another thread?

You do realise, hotchoc, that you didn't so much as acknowledge that you had noticed the info I put in your other thread, which has now been duplicated here?

Unless that wrong-name remark refers to my suggestion that he might have been registered under his mother's surname and used his father's, or vice versa ...

What can the meaning of this possibly be??

Was there something wrong with this thread? --

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=1112406

hotchoc 22nd December 2008 22:24
Can somebody please help me to find Francis Middleton on the 1881 census please? He was born in 1864 Plymouth Devon (Francis also fathers name) Making him approx 17.

Was there really some reason to invite other GR members to do all the same work all over again????

I'm sorry, but no, you do not just start a new thread because for some reason you didn't like what you got in the previous thread, and not bother mentioning the previous thread and all the info provided in it. This is appallingly rude, and AGAINST THE RULES OF THIS SITE.

i have middleton s in my tree but cant say from devon

it looks like the same workhouse in Plymouth ( Charles)
this must be them.

Cassandra

1871 possible Father, Francis Middleton

Name: Francis Middleton
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823
Relation: Nurse
Gender: Female
Where born: Plymouth
Civil Parish: [Charles]
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Plymouth
Sub registration district: Charles
ED, institution, or vessel: Plymouth Workhouse
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1

possible death

Name: Francis Middleton
Birth: abt 1822
Death: Dec 1871 - Plymouth, Devon

So the Frank that Janice found is possibly the one you're looking for??

Hope this helps

Cassandra

Thats ok thank you for looking x

sorry I can't find him in 1871 under Francis or Frances

cassandra

I dont know if this helps but i have found some old notes of mine with a possibility of this as being his family

1841:
Elizabeth middleton 55
Elizabeth 10
Emma 15
Ann 20
Francis 14 (this ? being his father)
All Plymouth

Hi cassandra, yes thats him, are you able to find him in 1871?

this is family in 1891??

Name: Francis J Middleton
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Plymouth, Devon, England

Civil Parish: Brixham
Ecclesiastical parish: Lower Brixham
Town: Brixham
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Totnes
Sub registration district: Brixham
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Francis J Middleton 26
Sarah Middleton 29
Elizabeth Middleton 1
Frances J Middleton 6/12
Jane Cole 80 >>>>>>>>>Grandmother to Sarah
Sarah Cole 60 >>>>>>>>mother to Sarah, it says Francis but think this is a mistake as Francis wife's maiden name was Cole





this is family in 1901??

Name: Francis Joseph Middleton
[Francis Jospeh Middleton]
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Plymouth, Devon, England

Civil Parish: Brixham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Brixham
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Totnes
Sub registration district: Brixham
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 2
Household Members: Name Age
Francis Joseph Middleton 37
Sarah Middleton 35
Lizzie Middleton 11
Francis Joseph Middleton 10
Frederick James Middleton 6
Sarah Cole 60 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Mother in law


marriage JUN Q 1889

>>>Sarah March Cole 1889 Totnes Devon
View Record
>>>Francis Joseph Middleton 1889 Totnes Devon
View Record
Joseph Mills 1889 Totnes Devon
View Record
Angela Susie Sprague 1889 Totnes Devon

cassandra

in 1901 he is 37 living in Brixham with wife Sarah,

possible sister Emily in 1881

Name: Emily Middleton
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation: Inmate
Gender: Female
Where born: Hemyock, Devon, England

Civil Parish: Wellington
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Street address: "Wellington Union Workhouse"
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Domestic Servant (Pauper)

Registration district: Wellington
Sub registration district: Wellington
ED, institution, or vessel: Union Workhouse



possible sister Emily in 1891??

Name: Emily Middleton
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation: Pauper Inmate (Pauper)
Gender: Female
Where born: Hemyock, Devon, England

Civil Parish: Wellington
Ecclesiastical parish: Wellington
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Wellington
Sub registration district: Wellington
ED, institution, or vessel: Wellington Union Workhouse

1871
There's another Emily Middleton born c1862 Uffculme, Devon parents are Henry and Ann, Henry has a brother Francis Middleton born c1837 Uffculme, Devon

Cassandra

Thank you every body you are so kind in helping me.
In the 1891 census he is Franceis middleton (wife sarah) Brixham
In 1881 census he is noted as Frank Middleton from Plymouth living in Brixham (it should read Francis! and not Frank. there where the confusion lies.
So it will be Francis Middleton age 6 in the 1871 census x

Does he marry ? perhaps we can find him on a later census for you first then work backwards.

possible 1881

Name: Frank Middleton
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Apprentice
Gender: Male
Where born: Plymouth, Devon, England

Civil Parish: Brixham
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street address: Furzham
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Fisher Appren

Registration district: Totnes
Sub registration district: Brixham
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Dickers 32
Sarah Dickers 31
William Dickers 11
Jessie Dickers 8
Thomas Wills 17
Sidney Weathers 17
Frank Middleton 16

possible 1891

Name: Frank Middleton
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Hemyock, Devon, England

Civil Parish: Llantrisant
Ecclesiastical parish: Llantrisant
Town: Gelliwion
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales

Street address: View Image
Condition as to marriage: View Image
Education: View Image
Employment status: View Image
Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Pontypridd
Sub registration district: Llantrisant
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Frank Middleton 26 >>>>>>>>>>Coal Miner
Mary Middleton 25
Bessie Middleton 4
Mark Middleton 4/12
Catherine Middleton 3/12

possible 1901

Name: Frank Middleton
Age in 1901: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Hemyock, Devon, England

Civil Parish: Llantrisant
Ecclesiastical parish: Llantrisant
Town: Tonyrefail
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales

Street address: View Image
Condition as to marriage: View Image
Education: View Image
Employment status: View Image
Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Pontypridd
Sub registration district: Llantrisant
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 70
Household Members: Name Age
Frank Middleton 37
Mary Middleton 37 >>>>>>wife to Frank born Llandee, Glamorgan
Emily Middleton 39 >>>>>Sister to Frank charwoman born Devon
Cassie Middleton 13
Mark Middleton 10
Blodwen Middleton 8
Anne Middleton 7
Davey Middleton 5
Gertrude Middleton 3
Edith Middleton 1
All kids born Tonyrefail, Glamorgan

cassandra

is there a Francis Middleton? age 6 someone suggested his name may be incorrect

Also this one 1871
Name: Frank Middleton
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Pauper Where born: Plymouth
Civil Parish: [Charles]
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Plymouth Workhouse



1891 does this help to confirm the right one
Name: Frank Middleton
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Hemyock, Devon, England

Civil Parish: Llantrisant
Ecclesiastical parish: Llantrisant
Town: Gelliwion
County/Island: Glamorgan
Name: Mary Middleton
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Frank
Gender: Female
Where born: Llandow (Llandw), Glamorgan, Wales

Bessie Middleton 4
Mark Middleton 4/12
Catherine Middleton 3/12