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Please can anyone help me, I am trying to trace my gt.gt.grandfather named William Burrows I know that his occupation was a Framework Knitter in 1889,as it states this on my gt.grandfathers marriage cert.His name was William also and he married Annie Caunt in Bottesford .I have traced Gt grandfather in the 1891 census living in Melton Mowbray aged 33 with 4 children and in the 1901 census living in Nile Street Nottingham aged 43 with 8 children.The family I thought was his William & Frances from East Bridgeford has been given doubt by a Geneologist I paid to search my tree as I am back to square one I was hoping someone could help me as I have been searching for about 5 years now

Gt.Grandfather in 1891, for reference purposes...

Name: William Burrows
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Annie
Gender: Male
Where born: Nottinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Melton Mowbray
Ecclesiastical parish: Melton Mowbray
Town: Melton Mowbray
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Melton Mowbray
Sub registration district: Melton Mowbray
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Burrows 33
Annie Burrows 23
William Burrows 13
Annie Burrows 11
Harriet Burrows 4
Gertrude Burrows 4/12

A possibility in 1871?

Name: William Burrows
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Fanny
Gender: Male
Where born: Nottinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Codnor and Loscoe
Ecclesiastical parish: Codnor
Town: Codnor
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Basford
Sub registration district: Greasley
ED, institution, or vessel: 3a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 475
Household Members: Name Age
Fanny Burrows 45
Fanny Burrows 9
George Burrows 22
John Burrows 24
Mary A Burrows 4
Robert Burrows 17
William Burrows 49
William Burrows 13
Charlotte Foster 17

The same family in 1861..

Is this the same William and Frances that the Genealogist has cast doubt on? If so, why do they think it is the wrong family?

Name: William Burrows
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Frances
Gender: Male
Where born: Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Codnor and Loscoe
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Basford
Sub registration district: Greasley
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 250
Household Members: Name Age
John Bassendine 49
Frances Burrows 35
George Burrows 12
John Burrows 14
Robert Burrows 7
Walter Burrows 10
William Burrows 39
William Burrows 3

What about this 1861?

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BURROWS, William Head Married M 48 1813 Framework Knitter
Lambley
Nottinghamshire
BURROWS, Sarah Wife Married F 45 1816
Nottingham
BURROWS, Mary Daughter Unmarried F 18 1843 Works Stitching Machine
Nottingham
BURROWS, Sarah Daughter Unmarried F 15 1846 Lace Clipper
Nottingham
BURROWS, Eliza Daughter Unmarried F 12 1849 Lace Clipper
Nottingham
BURROWS, William Son M 10 1851 Scholar
Nottingham
BURROWS, Thomas Son M 8 1853 Scholar
Nottingham
PARKER, Thomas Father In Law Widower M 80 1781 Lace Maker
Long Eaton
Derbyshire

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RG number:
RG09 Piece:
2455 Folio:
36 Page:
22

Registration District:
Nottingham Sub District:
2 St Mary EnumerationDistrict:
2 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Mary

Civil Parish:
St Mary Municipal Borough:
Nottingham Address:
8, Kelley Street, St Mary, Nottingham County:
Nottinghamshire

It certainly looks as if your family is William & Frances.

Hi
She said that she had found William son of William and Francis married and living in Sheffield in 1881 and 1891

Hi Sue
The genealogist found that the son William unmarried in the 1881 census living with his widowed father which wouldn't explain Williams son born 1878

Your William must have been married previously? In 1891 son William is 13 but wife Annie only 23.

Hi Margaret
Yes we think he was married to an Elizabeth Kirk they married 16th Oct 1871 but in the age it says full age which doesn't help on birth dates I have found this a real challenge.

This must be the 1881 you refer to.

William senior 's occupation FWK (framework knitter)

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BURROWS, William Head Widower M 67 1814 F W K
Lambley
Nottinghamshire
BURROWS, William Son Single M 30 1851 Joiner & Carpenter
Nottm
Nottinghamshire
TOMMS, Eliza Daughter Married F 33 1848 Lace Hand
Nottm
Nottinghamshire
TOMMS, Charles Grand Son Single M 9 1872 Scholar
Nottm
Nottinghamshire
ADAMSON, Emma Grand Daughter Single F 11 1870 Scholar
Nottm
Nottinghamshire

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RG number:
RG11 Piece:
3352 Folio:
42 Page:
35

Registration District:
Nottingham Sub District:
St Mary EnumerationDistrict:
Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Nottingham St Mary Municipal Borough:
Address:
64 Newington St, Nottingham St Mary County:
Nottinghamshire


But there is also this in 1881.

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BURROWS, William Head Married M 66 1815 Framework Knitter
Arnold
Nottinghamshire
BURROWS, Elizabeth Wife Married F 60 1821 Charwoman
Barrow on Soar
Leicestershire
HALLAM, Richard Lodger Married M 65 1816 Framework Knitter
Nottingham
LONG, William Lodger Married M 36 1845 Painter
Fiskerton
Nottinghamshire
WAGSTAFF, Albert Lodger Widower M 72 1809 Night Watchman
Nottingham
BARROW, Edwin Lodger Widower M 48 1833 Framework Knitter
Nottingham
WESTERMAN, Thomas Lodger Widower M 30 1851 Painter
Abberdon
Berkshire

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RG number:
RG11 Piece:
3360 Folio:
139 Page:
5

Registration District:
Nottingham Sub District:
Byron EnumerationDistrict:
Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Nottingham St Mary Municipal Borough:
Address:
Newark Lane, Nottingham St Mary County:
Nottinghamshire

William Burrows didn't marry Annie Caunt until 1889 so William & Annie are definitely his from previous marriage but what about Harriet who was born 1887?

What was gg grandfather's occupation on the marriage of g grandfather to Elizabeth Kirk? Was he still a framework knitter?

Its a real headache Sue I just don't know where to go

They had 2 Harriets one born 1884 who died then another in 1886

Something doesn't add up here. If William was born 1858, he would only have been 13 in 1871.

It says F.W.K which I presume is Frame Work Knitter

I know which makes me think he has lied on the 1891 and 1901 census as well as his marriage cert his age on his cert to Annie says 29

In 1891 William is at 12 King St., Melton Mowbray. He was 33, born Nottingham, general dealer.
Is this him in 1881?
18 White St., Nottingham
Age 27, born Nottingham, mason's labourer
Married to Elizabeth with children William 3 and Elizabeth 1.
(Don't think so?)

Do you have a birth cert for one of William's children from his first marriage for the name of mother?