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Never thought of that, most prob, I've seen census before that have just put down father/mother when I know for sure they are step.
Many thanks for your help and time in looking, I'll try different spelling for Storer marriage.
Cassandra

They both show as daughter ... but I'm still thinking that one was his stepdaughter.

It's possible that Thomas and Ann from the 1861 had both been married before (or maybe Ann had) which is why there are two Sarahs - one was his/their daughter and the other was her daughter?

Jill

that's the 1861 I was looking at with 2 Sarahs!!,
the parents John Waterfall and Jane Coleman could be for the first 1861 census I was looking at, the birth place was Ironville Derbyshire and the grandparents were Coleman

The one I mentioned first wasn't her as it was the wrong area of Derbyshire, think I've found her in 1861 in Ashbourne with parents Thomas and Ann, strange though as they have another daughter Sarah age 18. The 1881 census has her ( Sarah Ann ) birth place as Ashbourne so this could be her, do you think??

There's a tree on ancestry which shows her parents as John Waterfall and Jane Coleman. It does not have any info on her other than birth and baptism - which also shows on familysearch. Not sure how reliable that info is.

Jill

1861:

Sarah A Waterfall
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Ashbourne, Derbyshire, England

Civil Parish: Ashbourne
Ecclesiastical parish: Ashbourne
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Ashborne
Sub registration district: Ashborne
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
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Household schedule number: 102
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Allsop 2
Ann Waterfall 43
Charles Waterfall 8
Mary E Waterfall 7
Sarah Waterfall 18
Sarah A Waterfall 13
Thomas Waterfall 40

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Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 2521; Folio: 12; Page: 17; GSU roll: 542983.

Trouble is without at least one of her marriage certs to giver her father's name which would link to her birth it might not be the right one and you could end up following the wrong tree.

Have you managed to find her in any censuses with her parents?

Jill

Yes that could be her birth and her maiden name was Waterfall.

Yes, That's them in 1881

This might be her birth:

Births Jun 1848 (>99%)
Waterfall Sarah Ann Ashbourne 19 397 Scan available - click to view

definately says Storer but sorry I got Waterfalls wrong, it was just Waterfall

1881?

Thomas HANDS Head M Male 36 South Newington, Oxford, England French Polisher
Sarah HANDS Wife M Female 33 Ashbourne, Derby, England French Polisher
Charles HANDS Son Male 7 Birmingham, Warwick, England Scholar
William HANDS Son Male 4 Birmingham, Warwick, England Scholar
Lottie HANDS Daur Female 1 Birmingham, Warwick, England

possible that Sarah's name was misspelt as I think I've just found her in 1861 as sarah Ann Waterford on index, difficult to read census but one of the other grand daughters was down as Waterfall.
just thought if she'd married before her name on marriage index would be Storer so don't think that's their marriage.
Thanks for looking anyway

How sure are you of Storer? Could it be Stokes (although this is a bit late ...):

Marriages Jun 1894 (>99%)
Furniss William Irwin Burton 6b 549 Scan available - click to view
Goodall Annie Maria Burton 6b 549 Scan available - click to view
Hands Thomas Burton 6b 549 Scan available - click to view
Stokes Sarah Jane Burton 6b 549 Scan available - click to view

I couldn't find a marriage for Sarah and husband Thomas hands ( father listed on b/c of William born 31/1/1877 ) either but from 1881 census there was Charles c1874 and Charlotte c1880

Well I'm trying all sorts of combos for the marriages but so far nothing ...

Jill it says late Storer formerly Waterfalls

Thanks Lindsay
Jill the date was 1877 in Birmingham

One of mine said "Alice Mary Moncar, late White, nee Brewer". Brewer was her maiden name and White her married name from her first marriage.

Does it definitely say "formerly ... late ..." in that order?