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Lorraine

Lorraine Report 20 Oct 2008 18:25

I was wondering if anyone could do a search for John Barlow and Fred Barlow. All I know is that they both emigrated, one went to Winnipeg in Canada and the other went to America. They went around the years 1920. They would of been in their 20's. Their parents were called Levi and Hannah Barlow ( they did not emigrate with their boys).

Thank you
Lorraine

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 20 Oct 2008 18:50

Lorraine

Where were they living before emiragting?


Tracey

Lorraine

Lorraine Report 20 Oct 2008 19:43

They lived in Heywood, England. I think John may have been married to a Marian.

Lisa J in California

Lisa J in California Report 21 Oct 2008 23:18

Do you know their occupations, or their father's occupation, please?

Lisa J in California

Lisa J in California Report 21 Oct 2008 23:23

1930 United States Federal Census (dated April 14)
Name: Fred Barlow
Home in 1930: Long Beach, Los Angeles, California
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: c1894
Birthplace: England
Fred, age 36, born England, Machinist, Railroad Shops
Jessie, age 33, born England
Irene, age 10, born Canada (English)
George W., age 10/12, born California
all (but George) immigrated 1929
Living at: 1571? Sonoma (Street or Drive)

I don't see this family arriving in 1929 or any time around that date.

Is this George, from above?
George Webber Barlow
15-Jun-1929
Mother's Maiden Name: Kenny
Birth County: Los Angeles

alviegal

alviegal Report 21 Oct 2008 23:35

I think this is the family in 1901.


1901 England Census
about Levi Barlow
Name: Levi Barlow
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Birch Nr Heywood, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Heywood
Ecclesiastical parish: Birch St Mary
Town: Heywood
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Bury
Sub registration district: Heywood
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 344
Household Members:
Name Age
Annie Barlow 14
Fred Barlow 7 b 1894, Heywood
John Barlow 5 b 1896, Heywood
Lena Barlow 4
Levi Barlow 44 cotton spinning overlooker
Sarah Barlow 22
Wellie Barlow 11

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Lisa J in California

Lisa J in California Report 21 Oct 2008 23:44

Alviegal, Fred's age matches up. I wonder if it is the same person? There is a Social Security Death Record for George, but I didn't want to post everything I see, in case this isn't the correct family.

alviegal

alviegal Report 21 Oct 2008 23:49

Can't find John anywhere. It certainly sounds like Fred Lisa. Will keep looking.

Liz

Lisa J in California

Lisa J in California Report 21 Oct 2008 23:52

This describes George Webber Barlow, but after a quick glance, I didn't see anything about his parents:
http://academic-senate.berkeley.edu/memoriam/documents/Barlow_approved.pdf

Lisa J in California

Lisa J in California Report 21 Oct 2008 23:54

Also:
"...SERVICE George WEBBER Barlow 22 recently graduated from the Coast Guard Academy New London Conn with the rank of ensign in the Coast Guard Reserve is leave and ing his parents Mr and Mrs Fred Barlow 304 St Joseph Ave..."
(cannot display site...found when googling "George Webber Barlow")

Lisa J in California

Lisa J in California Report 21 Oct 2008 23:58

Photo of him:
http://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/senate/inmemoriam/georgewebberbarlow.html

Lisa J in California

Lisa J in California Report 22 Oct 2008 00:04

Alviegal, if you're still here, do you see Fred's birth in England, please?

This could be Fred, mentioned in the 1930 census:
Fred Barlow
Last Residence: Long Beach, California
Born: 13-May-1893
Died: July 1976

Lisa J in California

Lisa J in California Report 22 Oct 2008 00:47

Jessie Barlow
Birth Date: 25-Dec-1896
Birthplace: Other Country
Death Date: 14-July-1980
Death Place: Alameda
Mother's Maiden Name: Charnock
Father's Surname: Kenny
Alameda is both a city and county. Berkeley is in the County of Alameda. Jessie may have moved to the "Bay Area" after her husband died.

There is further information about this family.

alviegal

alviegal Report 22 Oct 2008 11:59

Sorry Lisa, went off to my bed. These are the births I would go with, don't have dates unfortunately.


Match quality: 4 out of 5 Fred Barlow 1893 Jan-Feb-Mar Bury Greater Manchester, Lancashire
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Match quality: 4 out of 5 Fred Barlow 1893 Apr-May-Jun Bury Greater Manchester, Lancashire


Liz

Lorraine

Lorraine Report 22 Oct 2008 14:45

Hi and thank you all for all your help so far. Yesterday I phoned my dad to see if I had the bit of information right. He said he knew that was in Winnipeg and the other was in California (but think they both went to Winnipeg first). He also said that one of their children was a Professor (must of been Fred's child). Imagine my suprise when I read the info you have all given.
As for the census 1901 (UK) my dads grandad was called Levi and his mother was called Lena. I know that there was also an Edith as I used to visit her in Heywood when I was a child.

Do you happen to have any info on the marriage of Fred and Jessie as I think they may of been married in Bury or Rochdale England before they went away.

Also if there was a marriage for John Barlow.

Thank you

Lorraine

alviegal

alviegal Report 22 Oct 2008 15:45

Here's Fred's marriage Lorraine.

Marriages Jun 1916 (>99%)
Barlow Fred Kenny Barrow F. 8e 1575 Scan available - click to view
Coward Jane D Johnson Barrow F. 8e 1575 Scan available - click to view
Johnson John P Coward Barrow F. 8e 1575 Scan available - click to view
Kenny Jessie Barlow Barrow F. 8e 1575 Scan available - click to view



Her parents' marriage perhaps.


Marriages Mar 1893 (>99%)
Channock Martha Chorlton 8c 877 Scan available - click to view
>>>Charnock Martha Chorlton 8c 877 Scan available - click to view
>>>Kenny George Chorlton 8c 877 Scan available - click to view
Kirkwood William Thomas Chorlton 8c 877 Scan available - click to view
Thomas Maggie Chorlton 8c 877 Scan available - click to view

alviegal

alviegal Report 22 Oct 2008 15:59

Levi and Hannah's marriage.

Marriages Sep 1878 (>99%)
>>>Barlow Levi Bury 8c 476 Scan available - click to view
>>>FALLOWS Hannah Bury 8c 476 Scan available - click to view
Howarth Matthew Bury 8c 476 Scan available - click to view
Johnson Mary Bury 8c 476 Scan available - click to view
YARTEN Thomas Bury 8c 476

Lorraine

Lorraine Report 22 Oct 2008 16:12

George was definatly my dads cousin. I have just spoken to my uncle to confirm this. He went to america once to visit him. I am going to try and get alittle more info from my aunt about John Barlow as my uncle says she used to write to him when she was young ( but she keeps getting alittle confused with names)

Lorraine

alviegal

alviegal Report 22 Oct 2008 16:23

Found Jessie and Fred emigrating to Canada. They were going to 1833 Ross Avenue, Winipeg.


Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
about Jessie Barlow
Name: Jessie Barlow
Gender: Female
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1897
Date of Arrival: 7 May 1919
Vessel: Tunisian
Search Ship Database: View the 'Tunisian' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: Montreal, Quebec
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Roll: T-4818




Name: Fred Barlow
Gender: Male
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1894
Date of Arrival: 7 May 1919
Vessel: Tunisian
Search Ship Database: View the 'Tunisian' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: Montreal, Quebec
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Roll: T-4818

alviegal

alviegal Report 22 Oct 2008 16:35

Looks like Fred and Jessie came back home for a holiday.


Name: Jessie Barlow
Birth Date: 25 Dec 1896
Age: 61
Port of Departure: Montréal, Québec, Canada
Arrival Date: 30 May 1958
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ports of Voyage: Montreal
Ship Name: Carinthia
Search Ship Database: View the 'Carinthia' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Cunard Steamship Company Ltd
Official Number: 1963/01




Fred was born 13.5.93 (looks like your death notice is right Lisa), was retired and going to stay at 31, Torrington Street, Heywood, Lancs for 5 months on a visit. They were citizens of the US and intended to return there. Jessie was born on 25.12.96



Liz