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William Bell - 1841 - Ely

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Tracy

Tracy Report 14 Sep 2008 06:34

Hi,

I'm looking for a William Bell B.1841 supposedly Born in Ely according to the 1881 census. He lived in Islington in 1881 with Wife Ann (Arnum I think but not confirmed). Son William, John and Henry Thomas Bell. By 1901, they no longer live with him. Ann had remarried, so therefore probably a widow. She marries a man called Stevens.

In 1881 he was 40 and it states that he is from Ely. I'm not sure if Ely is a red herring. Also difficult to track as born in 1841 so i'm not sure if he was alive when the 1841 census was done.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Tracy

Sue from Perth Oz

Sue from Perth Oz Report 14 Sep 2008 07:14

1891

Name: Henrie T Bell
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation: Stepson
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Islington, London, England

Civil Parish: Clerkenwell
Ecclesiastical parish: Clerkenwell St James
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View Image

Registration district: Holborn
Sub registration district: St James Clerkenwell
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Annie Bell 5
Henrie T Bell 11
John F Bell 14
William C Bell 17
Ann Stevens 41
James C Stevens 29

Marriages Mar 1891

Bell Ann Holborn 1b 947
Stevens James Crumpler Holborn 1b 947

Tracy

Tracy Report 14 Sep 2008 07:22

Thank you so much it narrows down a few things. Ann Bell was obviously widdowed. But also that William Bell must have died between 1885/1886 9 months before his daughter was born and 1891 when she re-married. So i assume closer to 1885.

Thank you though!

ChristineinPortugal

ChristineinPortugal Report 14 Sep 2008 07:26

What was his occupation in 1881, there is this one born Cambridgeshire on 1861 census, occ tailor

1861 England Census
about William Bell
Name: William Bell
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Relation: Grandson
Gender: Male
Where born: Cambridge, Cambridgeshire, England

Civil Parish: Cambridge St Andrew The Less
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Cambridge
County/Island: Cambridgeshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Cambridge
Sub registration district: St Andrew the Less
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 72
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Bell 66
Ellen Bell 3
Mary Ann Bell 39
Samuel Bell 29
Thomas Bell 62
William Bell 21

Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 1023; Folio: 93; Page: 14;

Christine

Tracy

Tracy Report 14 Sep 2008 07:30

Thanks Christine.

In 1881, his was a Stationers Clerk. Not quite sure what a stationers clerk would have done though!

Thanks again!

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 14 Sep 2008 07:30

If you think he's William Cook Bell then this must be his death:

Deaths Sep 1888
BELL William Cook 57 Islington 1b 118

Rose

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 14 Sep 2008 07:37

1861 England Census
about William C Bell
Name: William C Bell
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relation: Brother
Gender: Male
Where born: Sutton, Cambridgeshire, England
Civil Parish: Clerkenwell St James
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Registration district: Clerkenwell
Sub registration district: Goswell Street
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Household schedule number: 237
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Bell 26
William C Bell 30

Rose

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1841 England Census
about William Bell
Name: William Bell
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Gender: Male
Where born: Cambridgeshire, England

Civil Parish: Sutton
Hundred: Witchford (South) (Isle of Ely)
County/Island: Cambridgeshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Ely
Sub registration district: Sutton
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Bell 40
Elizabeth Bell 15
Emily Bell 9
Frederick Bell 3
Thomas Bell 8
William Bell 50
William Bell 11
Sarah Ward 20

Rose

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 14 Sep 2008 07:44


From IGI:

WILLIAM COOKE

Christening: 06 JUN 1830 Sutton, Cambridge, England

Parents:
Father: WILLIAM BELL
Mother: ELISABETH
Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

C135325


Rose

Tracy

Tracy Report 14 Sep 2008 07:47

Thanks Rose! I've been searching on this one for ages. So his age in the 1881 census was actually wrong. Your an absolute star!

Tracy

Tracy Report 14 Sep 2008 07:49

Thats definately him! I cant believe how quickly you found all that! I'm definately a beginner at this.

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 14 Sep 2008 08:04

He's listed as a widower in 1861. There are several marriages for a William Cook Bell in the London area. I wonder if they were all for him? He's a bit like Henry the 8th!

Rose

Tracy

Tracy Report 14 Sep 2008 08:13

How many marriages are we talking about?? He was definately with Ann in the 1881 census. So he may have had more children as well.

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 14 Sep 2008 08:20

Take a look on FreeBMD:

Marriages Dec 1855
BELL William Cook St James 1a 587

Marriages Sep 1861
Bell William Cook Pancras 1b 76

Marriages Mar 1867
Bell William Cook Islington 1b 252

Marriages Sep 1870
BELL William Cook Holborn 1b 965

Rose

Tracy

Tracy Report 14 Sep 2008 08:24

oh my!!! I cant believe it! How would i find out if they were all him though?

ChristineinPortugal

ChristineinPortugal Report 14 Sep 2008 08:27

Is this him in 1871?

1871 England Census
about Williams C Bell
Name: Williams C Bell
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Sutton, Cambridgeshire, England
Civil Parish: Camberwell St Giles
Ecclesiastical parish: St George
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation: commercial clerk

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Camberwell
Sub registration district: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Household schedule number: 308
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Bell 41
Williams C Bell 39

Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 739; Folio: 103; Page: 60;

Tracy

Tracy Report 14 Sep 2008 08:39

Yes it does look like him. That would have been his last wife. If what we are saying is all him! Something just doesnt look right with him! Why would you have 4 wifes within 15 years???

ChristineinPortugal

ChristineinPortugal Report 14 Sep 2008 08:46

There is another William C Bell around the London area so some could be his, maybe your William just married twice.

Christine

Tracy

Tracy Report 14 Sep 2008 08:48

oh ok! Do you know how old this William C Bell was and when?

Tracy

Tracy Report 14 Sep 2008 08:49

Thank you all for your help!