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Hey.... Just been checking: I do not have anything on her first marriage to George Cotton, but on the census her dob: IS 1887 but on her marriage to my g/father John Bellaby in 1922 she has put her age as 33 (fibber)

It will help GRO even more if you can give her date of birth,,the more info you can give them the better ,,

OH THANK YOU

Sylvia,

how old is ivy on both her marriage certificates do they match..?

her birth may have missed the transcribing into the GRO.. so wont be in the indexing,,,,,,,,,,,,and you may need to apply direct to GRO Southport for a search giving Sarah &William as parents,, you will get her mothers maiden name from this,,,,,

I am so sorry

Please read the Tips for Newbies thread.

You should have given us ALL the info you already had - that another set of people had spent time looking up for you before. People have good hearts on here but when they have wasted half an hour each looking for info already available to you, it can be very upsetting.

I am waiting for that cert to come in the post. fingers crossed

I only have a copy of Ivy's marriage cert to my grandad ( John Bellaby ) Ivy Cotton widow. married 4th Dec 1922 . her fathers name as William Mariner

She was married at St Clements Church in Kensington (north) London
Her first husband's name was George Cotton

OH NO. Sylvia, you have already been given all this information.

Please read Tips for Newbies.

You need to buy the certificate for the second marriage to find Sarah's maiden name. As we cant be sure what her fathers first name was - the John marriage to a Sarah is likely but you state his name should be William.

Guys, duplicated thread.

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=1074749

Hi,

Marriages Jun 1884 (>99%)
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Jacob Sarah Wandsworth 1d 1041
MARINER John Wandsworth 1d 1041


Dee

Hi,

is this Ivy's marriage;

Marriages Jun 1909 (>99%)

COTTON George Henry Kensington 1a 326
MARINER Ivy Kensington 1a 326
SAYERS John Kensington 1a 326
STREAMES Cecelia Ann Kensington 1a 326

Dee

But wasnt father William? This is all very odd. Has anyone found a birth ref for Ivy or Edith? Or a marriage for Sarah Mariner to a Buckley? or indeed a marriage for William Mariner to a Sarah? Or should that be John? (My head is aching :))

This looks like the family in 1891 but the name is Warner. Looking at the original it could possibly be Marner:
1891 census
128 Portobello Rd., Kensington, London
John Warner, head, 37, cab washer, born Hampshire
Sarah, wife, 34, born Berkshire
Edith E., dau, 6, scholar
Ivy, dau, 4, scholar
William John, son, 1
Children all born Notting Hill.

Sylvia,

do we know for definate her name was MARINER.

Would you let us know her husbands name and where they married and when.

Ordering that cert will give Ivy's fathers name.

Dee x

Yes that was her older sister she also had a younger sister by Sarah's 2nd marriage Blanche Buckley

I looked up the house she lived in and it gave me: Sarah Buckley (Head of family) 43 years. Edith Mariner daug 16 years. Ivy Mariner daug 14 years. Blanche Buckley daug 5year
Sirdar Rd Notting Hill Kensington London

I have only got 1901 census, Ivy 14 years London Notting Hill Kensington

1901 England Census
about Edith Mariner
Name: Edith Mariner
[Edith Buckley]
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Female
Where born: Notting Hill, London, England

Civil Parish: Kensington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Gabriels Chapelry and St James Norlands
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Kensington
Sub registration district: Kensington Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 35
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 660
Household Members: Name Age
Blanche Buckley 5
Sarah Buckley 43
Edith Mariner 16
Ivy Mariner 14


Is this the one??