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Trying to find 'Harry' Marshall

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Catherine

Catherine Report 1 Oct 2008 12:36

Hello Julia,
I understand you want to find children of this couple but without a marriage I'm not sure how to proceed. I must admit that I'm not the best for 'descendant' research, I'm better at ancestors.
I was born in England but now live in France.
When I was foot loose and fancy free, I worked two summer seasons in Switzerland, firstly in Weggis and the following year in Zurich.
Regards
Catherine

Julia

Julia Report 1 Oct 2008 09:54

Catherine,

Marvellous. Unfoturnately I cannot ask any realtions of my father, George Harold Marshall, as I do not know any of them. I will try to follow up the Marriage of Muriel Marshal as I do know this was his sister. I also know from the death certificate of George H that he died in Warwickshire so his wife Beryl who signed the death certificate may be the one in the death you discovered. I especially want to discover any children from this marriage. Have you any tips how I would go about it?
What country do you live in Catherine - I live in Switzerland.
Many thanks,
Julia

Catherine

Catherine Report 29 Sep 2008 15:13

Only Beryl E A born in 1928 that I could find:-

Births Mar 1928 (>99%)
Toone Beryl E A (Staton) Leeds 9b 417

Can't find a marriage though for George and Beryl?

Catherine

Catherine Report 29 Sep 2008 15:06

Only death for a Beryl Marshall, in Warwickshire, I could find is the following. May not be her of course:-

Name: Beryl Elizabeth A Marshall
Birth Date: 2 Dec 1928
Death Registration Month/Year: Mar 1997
Age at death (estimated): 68
Registration district: Birmingham
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Register number: G5B
District and Subdistrict: 0611G
Entry Number: 258

Catherine

Catherine Report 29 Sep 2008 14:55

Search Results From Marriages 1941 to 1950

Details of your chosen Marriage certificate (including spouse) are as follows:
Surname Forename(s) Year District
PIRT Audrey 1948 Durham Western
MARSHALL Admiral 1948 Durham Western

Surname Forename(s) Year District
TRIGG Ronald H 1945 Durham Northern
MARSHALL Muriel 1945 Durham Northern

others have several possibilities.

Catherine

Catherine Report 29 Sep 2008 14:37

Hello Julia
Just got back from England so haven't been connected for a few days.

Marriage for Admiral Marshall:-
Marriages Mar 1915 (>99%)
Marshall Admiral (Armstrong) Chester-le-S. 10a 787
Armstrong Edith M ( Marshall) Chester-le-S. 10a 787

Births Sep 1916 (68%)
Marshall George H (Armstrong) Durham 10a 762

Possible siblings of George, although first two are born before the marriage:-
Type: Births Surname: marshall Start date: Mar 1905
End date: Dec 1925 Spouse/Mother's surname: armstrong County: Co. Durham

Births Mar 1913 (>99%)
Marshall Florence Armstrong Morpeth 10b 843

Births Sep 1914 (>99%)
Marshall Minnie L Armstrong Morpeth 10a 929

Births Jun 1915 (>99%)
MARSHALL Thomas Armstrong Durham 10a 8[9_]2

Births Sep 1920 (>99%)
Marshall Muriel Armstrong Durham 10a 974

Births Dec 1922 (90%)
Marshall Admiral Armstrong Durham 10a 714

Maybe one of his brothers or sisters could help?

Julia

Julia Report 28 Sep 2008 13:35

Yes she was, she signed the death certificate. Many thanks for the tip I will try this.
Julie

ChristineinPortugal

ChristineinPortugal Report 27 Sep 2008 14:25

Julia, you have to have a subscription to Ancestry or Findmypast to be able to search for them.

Was Beryl still alive when he died?

Christine

Julia

Julia Report 27 Sep 2008 13:54

Catherine, Where did you find information on George H Marshall's death. I finally have the certificate and his wife was Beryl but I cannot find anywhere information on their marriage or her death. what sources do you use. thanks
Julie

Julia

Julia Report 31 Aug 2008 12:15

Catherine, many, many thanks I will order the death certificate and go from there.
Julie

Catherine

Catherine Report 30 Aug 2008 13:14

This is the only death record I could find for a George Harold Marshall born 1916:-

Name: George Harold Marshall
Birth Date: 17 Jun 1916
Death Registration Month/Year: Oct 1984
Age at death (estimated): 68
Registration district: Warwick and Leamington
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 31
Page: 549

If his exact date of birth was 17th June then it's a really good chance it's him.
If this is the case, at least you know the area that he moved to.
The death certificate will give you the address he was living at and the name of the person that registered the death. This is usually a relative, wife, son or daughter, but could be a doctor or someone else if he was living on his own or was in a home.
Hope it isn't him, but if it is, at least it will give you something to go on.

Catherine

Julia

Julia Report 30 Aug 2008 12:29

My mother is dead and I have had no contact with any of the family ever. All my aunts and uncles who may have known him are dead.
Julie

Catherine

Catherine Report 29 Aug 2008 17:21

Once you have his parents names you can find any possible siblings from freebmd.
Does your mam not know any of his brothers or sisters or any of his living relatives?
The easiest way to find out what happened to him is to ask someone. Surely someone in his family must know where he is or what happened to him ?
Have you no contact with any aunties, uncles or cousins from your dads side?

Catherine

Julia

Julia Report 29 Aug 2008 14:13

Catherine,
Yes I am sure of the dates as I have a copy of the marriage certificate of George H and my mother in 1940. It states he was born in 1916 in Durham. In the meantime I have the numbers for his birth certificate which is 10a 762 and have ordered a copy but this will not help me to go forwards in time to whom he married after my mother and where he moved to. Would love some suggestions please.
Julie

Julia

Julia Report 29 Aug 2008 14:05

Many thanks for your responses. George H Marshall was my father who divorced my mother after my birth in 1945 and disappeared from my life. I do know he married again and would like to trace the new family. All the information is wonderful and now II have had great success in tracing ancestors backwards (before 1916) but have no idea how to trace forwards. Any suggestions?
Julie

Catherine

Catherine Report 22 Aug 2008 10:27

This is the only George H Marshall I could find born in 1916:-

Births Mar 1916 (>99%)
Marshall George H (Bettison) Gainsbro 7a 1210

The district Gainsbro is an alternative name for Gainsborough and it spans the boundaries of the counties of Lincolnshire and Nottinghamshire

Are you sure about your dates ?

Catherine

Catherine Report 22 Aug 2008 10:19

Birth:-

ANDREW MARSHALL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 20 MAY 1796
Gender: Male Christening: 25 MAY 1796 Saint Nicholas, Durham, Durham, England
Father: ANDREW MARSHALL
Mother: ANN

Catherine

Catherine Report 22 Aug 2008 10:15

1841

Name: Thomas Marshall
Age: 1 Mo
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Gender: Male
Where born: Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Howden
Hundred: Howdenshire
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Occupation: (looks like) Hatter ?

Registration district: Howden
Sub registration district: Howden
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Andrew Marshall 40
Mary Marshall 30
Mary Marshall 4
Sarah Marshall 2
Thomas Marshall 1 Mo

Catherine

Catherine Report 22 Aug 2008 10:05

Probably Thomas in 1861:-

Name: Thomas Marshall
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Andrew
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Selby, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Durham St Giles
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address: Sunderland Road

Occupation: Coal Miner

Registration district: Durham
Sub registration district: St Nicholas
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 57
Household Members:
Name Age
Andrew Marshall 65 born: Sunderland, Durham
Andrew Marshall 2
Jane Marshall 18
John Marshall 16
Mary Marshall 58 born: Selby, Yorkshire
Thomas Marshall 20

1851

Name: Thomas Marshall
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Andrew
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Howdon, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Durham St Giles
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Registration district: Durham(Street Indexed)
Sub registration district: St Nicholas
ED, institution, or vessel: 5d
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 205
Household Members:
Name Age
Andrew Marshall 56
Jane Marshall 9
John Marshall 6
Mary Marshall 49
Sarah A Marshall 12
Thomas Marshall 10

Catherine

Catherine Report 22 Aug 2008 10:02

1881
Name: Thomas Marshall
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah A.
Gender: Male
Where born: Hendon, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Cornsay
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address: Cornsay Col 166 Gillow St
Condition as to marriage: Married

Occupation: Coal Miner

Registration district: Lanchester
Sub registration district: Lanchester
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Mathew Elsbury 37
Ellen Marshall 5
Isabella Marshall 2
Jane Marshall 7
John S. Marshall 15
Mary Marshall 12
Sarah Marshall 9
Sarah A. Marshall 35
Thomas Marshall 39

1871
Name: Thomas Marshall
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Selby, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: St Giles
Ecclesiastical parish: Belmont St Giles
Town: Durham
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Occupation: Licensed Victualler (Hare and Hounds)

Registration district: Durham
Sub registration district: St Nicholas
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Household schedule number: 12
Household Members:
Name Age
John Marshall 4
Mary Marshall 2
Sarah Ann Marshall 26
Thomas Marshall 27