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Hi Chris,

Sorry about the delay getting back to you. Just wanting some more info from the 1st marriage cert, Address from where they married from, William Sinclairs occupation and is the occupation of his deceased father on there?

I'll have another dig about and see what turns up.


Dee x

Hi Chris,

Let's just recap on what we have.

1. 2nd marriage cert. (A W Gabriel marries E Hampton, his father named as Frederick Charles Gabriel)

2. Mums birth cert. (parents named as? Sinclair and ? Wilson)

3. 1st marriage cert. (W Sinclair marries A Wilson, his father named as Charles Sinclair)

Chris I think you've now got to decide what you know as Definate......... his 2nd marriage, your Mums birth cert, the 1st marriage? Does the info tie in? You seem positive that the 2nd marriage is correct...... is your Mums birth cert correct? If so do the parents names tie in from that with that 1st marriage?

I think we've basically got to go from the "Definate" answers, hopefully this will lead us in the correct direction then.

Speak soon, Dee xx

Chris I still think we're on the right track, this is the 1901 census of the Eldest brother and some of the children;

1901 England Census
about Albert Gabriel
Name: Albert Gabriel
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Hannah
Gender: Male
Where born: Hackney, London, England

Civil parish: Walthamstow
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Walthamstow
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: West Ham
Sub-registration district: Walthamstow <<<<<<<<<< Is this why the address???
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 191
Household Members: Name Age
William Sturt 50
Hannah Sturt 39
Frederick Gabriel 23
Edith Gabriel 24
Edith Gabriel 19
Albert Gabriel 13
Mary Robertson 23
Nellie Robertson 2

In 1911, both Edith the sister and Frederick the eldest brother are living with their own families in Walthamstow, now did William/Arthur go there after his first wife had died??? It would make sense to go to family when you have 2 children to look after.

Also the youngest son on the 1891 census, Sidney Victoria Gabriel, he marries in 1915 and there are 2 possible sons born to him............. guess where their births are registered, West Ham!!


Dee x