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No will put him on,had forgotten.
Thanks for that

Only just come back. You have not mentioned little William, the boy born about July 1860 and their apparent first born who has disappeared on the 1871 - dont forget the poor little soul who I suppose likely died.

Hi,
Sorry for confusion.Will recap.
Thomas William White born Warwick c1829,was 1st married to Maria Cornwell c 1827.They had Thomas John b 1856 St.Martins in the Fields,Middlesex.Maria died 1859.Thomas William c 1829 then married or not Lois,they then had another Thomas c1862,plus George,Annie,Lottie(Charlotte),William and Samuel.
Hope that makes it a bit clearer.
Thanks Gill

Gill,

Not sure who is more confused at the moment - me or you.

Which marriage in 1857 are you referring to. (No that marriage no good was married to Maria Cornwell 1857)

All the census info posted has which year it is from.

Mauren

So what happened to Thomas John b1856?


Marriages Sep 1855 (>99%)
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Andrews John St Geo.H.Sq 1a 403
Cornwell Maria St Geo H Sq 1a 403
Odell Mary St Geo. H, Sq 1a 403
White Thomas William St George Hanover Square 1a 403

Gill,

am now confused with the info you sent in pm


Lois stated as 45 in 1881 census married to Thomas with kids Thomas 19yrs,George 17yrs,Annie 14yrs,Lottie 12 years, William 9 yrs.Living 152 Glenarm Rd.

Was Thomas head of family's second marriage first one too Maria Cornwell she died 1859.Had a son with her also called Thomas John 1856.
Really wanting to find her maiden name and where she married him.She is down as Cossall Notts


Maureen

The birth cert is the way forward. I must get on with a pile of correspondence for work now :)

Will have to leave this until further info from Gill


Perhaps the couple never married

Good chance Ives is Lois. But still no marriage either first one or to White :(

I think Gill, you would be best getting the birth cert - have you found the ref?

1851 ??

Name: Solomon Rollerson
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Charlotte
Gender: Male
Where born: Cossall, Nottinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Cossall
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Basford
Sub registration district: Ilkeston
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 23
Household Members: Name Age
Charlotte Rollerson 46
Ives Rollerson 14 ******* female
Solomon Rollerson 10
William Rollerson 17
John Rollinson 46

Yes great minds think a like but really stuck now.

Gillian, which of their children is your direct ancestor (hence the best birth cert to buy?)

In the 1841 - only likely Lois candidate born Cossall

Name: Lois Rollinson
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Gender: Female
Where born: Nottinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Cossall
Hundred: Broxtow (South Division)
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Basford
Sub registration district: Ilkeston
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Sarah Hicklin 11
Charlotte Rollinson 35
John Rollinson 35
Lois Rollinson 5
Samuel Rollinson 10
Solomon Rollinson 8 Mo
William Rollinson 8

pmsl, great minds, eh? I was trying to work out who the Hicklin kid was. No dad.

Sadly, cant see a marriage for Lois Rollinson :(

1841 is this a guess too far ?

Name: Lois Rollinson
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Gender: Female
Where born: Nottinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Cossall
Hundred: Broxtow (South Division)
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Basford
Sub registration district: Ilkeston
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Sarah Hicklin 11
Charlotte Rollinson 35
John Rollinson 35
Lois Rollinson 5
Samuel Rollinson 10
Solomon Rollinson 8 Mo
William Rollinson 8



She seems to show same place of birth on later census except one when it is just Nottinghamshire

There is only one Lois and shown born Derby :( I know the counties were fluid then but wrong date aswell. Notice she has aged a bit by the 1871.

Oh bother with 1851

Sills family in right area but no Lois

Not checked before marriage yet.


1871 just for info
Name: Lois White
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Thomas
Gender: Female
Where born: Cossall, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Bromley St Leonard
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Poplar
Sub registration district: Bow
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Household schedule number: 104
Household Members: Name Age
Anne White 3
Charlotte E White 2
George White 7
Lois White 37
Thomas White 42
Thomas White 9

Louisa being Lois? Actually Glitter, Seal is quite a common name in Notts as I know some :) Have we checked her out with that surname pre marriage?

1871 - back in London - have they lost the eldest boy?

Name: Lois White
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Thomas
Gender: Female
Where born: Cossall, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Bromley St Leonard
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Poplar
Sub registration district: Bow
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Household schedule number: 104
Household Members: Name Age
Anne White 3
Charlotte E White 2
George White 7
Lois White 37
Thomas White 42
Thomas White 9


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I did wonder about this marriage

Marriages Dec 1857 (>99%)
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Esdaile Harriet Marshall St Giles 1b 505
Seal Louisa St Giles 1b 505
Thompson William Austin St Giles 1b 505
White Thomas William St Giles 1b 505

Hmm, cant see a suitable marriage as yet but a couple of possible William Whites born September quarter 1860 in Marylebone.