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i am looking for any relitives of jessie elizabeth baker nee terry. she was born jan feb march 1912 her fathers name was henry john terry. she married leonard baker on 18th feb 1933 at register office in st pancras n.w. london. she had two children a boy born 4-1-1934.called leonard fredrick and a girl born 20-6-1936 called jean percey nee baker. they lived at 2 leigh st. st pancras. she then divorced approx 1939/40 she left family home in 1938 and was last known to be living at 27. exmouth street kensington london. her last contact with her children was in dartford kent in march 1960. im not sure if she remarried after her divorce.if you reconise anything to do with my request please contact me thank you. dawn

I guess you're new to this, but you really only need one message, not one on every board as it gets really confusing

are you looking for ancestors or decendants?

Parents marriage

Marriages Sep 1909 (>99%)
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KIRK Annie Marylebone 1a 1496
TERRY Henry John Marylebone 1a 1496


fathers birth

Births Sep 1889 (>99%)
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Terry Henry John Marylebone 1a 585

looks like him on the censuses

1901 England Census
about Henry J Terry
Name: Henry J Terry
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Oscar H
Mother's Name: Eliza
Gender: Male
Where born: St Marylebone, London, England

Civil Parish: St Marylebone
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: St Marylebone
Sub registration district: Christchurch
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 31
Household Members: Name Age
Eliza Terry 34
Henry J Terry 11
Oscar H Terry 37
Oscar W Terry 6
Thomas R Terry 1


1891 England Census
about Henry Terry
Name: Henry Terry
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Oscar H
Mother's Name: Eliza
Gender: Male
Where born: St Marylebone, London, England

Civil Parish: St Marylebone
Ecclesiastical parish: St Pauls
Town: Marylebone
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Marylebone
Sub registration district: Christchurch
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Eliza Terry 24
Henry Terry 1
Oscar H Terry 27




parents marriage

Marriages Jun 1887 (47%)
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Terry Oscar Henry Marylebone 1a 1039
Williams Eliza Marylebone 1a 1039

Dawn -- you're looking for info about her after her children last saw her?

Born in 1912, the odds are very high that she has died.

The birth date on this death record is slightly off, but the name and location fit.


Name: Jessie Elizabeth Baker
Birth Date: 7 Nov 1912
Death Registration Month/Year: Jul 1986
Age at death (estimated): 73
Registration district: Gravesend
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 16
Page: 828


Sometimes the people who report deaths don't know the correct date of birth. It could be she was born in November 1911 and her birth registered in early 1912, for example, and was thought to be a year younger than she was.

Getting the death certificate could tell you something -- possibly an address or family member's name -- that would rule that death out, or confirm it as your Jessie.

fathers birth

Births Sep 1863 (>99%)
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TERRY Oscar Henry Marylebone 1a 407


1871 England Census
about Oscar Terry
Name: Oscar Terry
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Adeline
Gender: Male
Where born: London, England
Civil Parish: St Marylebone
Ecclesiastical parish: Rectory
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Marylebone
Sub registration district: Rectory
ED, institution, or vessel: 1a
Household schedule number: 315
Household Members: Name Age
Adeline Terry 39
Adeline Terry 10
Arthur Terry 13
Oscar Terry 7

Thank you for this information it is very helpfull.
I am looking to see if Jessie had any children and thier details after her devorce to lenoard baker.
If you can help me with this please get in touch.
Thank you very much

Dawn

What I meant to say -- if you get her birth certificate, it will give you her exact date of birth.

The death index after 1984 can be searched by given name and date of birth alone, without a surname.

That way, if she did remarry so you don't have her surname, it might be possible to identify a possibility for her death. With the surname, a matching marriage could be searched for -- a much more time-consuming process, before 1984, involving searching through the images on line.

parents marriage

Marriages Sep 1852 (>99%)
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LUXFORD Adeline Marylebone 1a 678
TERRY Henry Marylebone 1a 678


and them in 1861

1861 England Census
about Arthur G Terry
Name: Arthur G Terry
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Henry
Mother's Name: Adeline
Gender: Male
Where born: Pancras, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: St Pancras
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Pancras
Sub registration district: Somers Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 270
Household Members: Name Age
Adeline Terry 35
Adeline Terry 7 Mo
Arthur G Terry 3
Henry Terry 35

ok, that i cant help you with. i only know how to get back at this point

Dawn -- have you deleted all the other threads? One post per topic. Otherwise, people waste their time. Just click on "my threads" on the left hand side, and then open each thread and click on "delete" in the lower right of your first post, and the entire thread will be deleted.

My recommendatinon is: get her birth certificate so you have her exact date of birth.

Name: Jessie E Terry
Year of Registration: 1912
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Mother's Maiden Name: Kirk
District: St Marylebone (1902-1977)
County: Greater London, London
Volume: 1a
Page: 1036

With that info, you can order the certificate for 7 pounds on line from:

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates

Then bring the birthdate info back to your thread here, and a search of the death index can be done for starters. (She may have died before 1984, of course.)

Particularly because a birth registered in Q1 1912 could have happened in late 1911, it's important to have her birthdate.

Ok thank you KathrynB i will get her birth certificate but i want to know if she has had any children after the first marrage i know of.
Could you be able to help with this please?
Could you email me it please
Thanks Dawn

Oh, I meant to explain --

Anybody who has posted in this thread will see it up at the top of their own "My Threads" list any time you put any new info in it. It will also get bumped back up to the top of the Trying to Find board.

(If you see "remove this filter" over on the left of your screen, click on it. You'll see the whole Trying to Find board that we're looking at, not the board for just one surname, in case that's where you put the post.)

When you do that, you might also change the subject line (use the "edit" link in your first post).

I would make it

Jessie Elizabeth Baker 1912 - New Info

-- once you have new info -- so other people might be more likely to look at it too.

Dawn -- there is absolutely no way of knowing whether she had children after her divorce, without knowing what surname they would have been registered in. Births can only be searched for by the surname of the child.

I recommend trying to find her death first, to be sure of her surname when she died.

If she died before 1984, that won't be easy.

To find a marriage after her divorce, someone who pays for access to Ancestry has to download four images for each year, and search the Bakers for a Jessie E getting married in a likely place. That would give her new surname.

Then someone would have to do the same thing -- download four images (or more) for each year, and search for children with the new surname and mother Baker.

Or she might have not married, and she might have had children and registered them under (a) her first married surname, (b) the surname of the father, or (c) her birth surname. This possibility means that the search wouldn't just be time-consuming, it might be completely pointless! if you didn't even know what surname to be looking for.

Get the birth cert, and then we'll talk!

Well i cant get any certificate without proper dates.
at the moment im only getting months and the years not proper dates!
How do i get the full dates then ?
thanks

Take the info I copied for you -- her birth record.

You need this info from it:

quarter
year
names
district
volume no.
page no.

It's all there.

Go to the link I gave you for the GRO.

Do the payment stuff -- you need some kind of card to pay with.

When it asks you whether you have the GRO reference, you say "yes" -- that's the volume and page number business.

Just fill out the info in the form, as per the list above, with the info I copied for the birth of Jessie E Terry.

Submit it all, and you should have the certificate in a week or so, as I understand it. (Takes two weeks to Canada, but they might still be backed up.)

The only date you need to order the certificate is Year + Quarter (jan-feb-mar 1912). You need the certificate to get the actual date. ;)

if anyone nos of any children of jessie baker nee terry would they please reply

So Dawn -- did you order her birth certificate?

If you actually want to find some answers, that's what you'll start with.

If you think answers are going to drop into your lap by magic, well, just keep on asking the question!

i no that couldnt order death certificate as i need date of death i only have month and year. so if u no how to get the date then please tell me