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1841 and 51 Census look up please

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Cynthia

Cynthia Report 13 Jun 2008 20:53

Haven't asked a question for ages on this link, but things have moved on somewhat. I have discovered Richard's baptism (1813 @ Stone) on the Medway City Ark link and his parents were Richard and Sarah Cork. Could someone please look at the census to help me find out somethng more about them please. I think they may have married in 1818 as that is the only feasible match I can find on the IGI. Many thanks.

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 20 May 2008 20:26

Hi Glitter Baby, today I received a copy of Daniel's marriage certificate and it states that Richard was his father and that he was a farm labourer. Mind you, this doesn't help sort out why Daniel is missing here and there but it has given me a lead on Richard hopefully.

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 16 May 2008 21:25

I noticed that. Hope he wasn't exploiting the system! I've never added to a previous thread before - learning all the time! Will be offline till tomorrow now. Thanks for all your help

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 16 May 2008 21:11

An Olive Corke died Sep. Q 1887, Maidstone, age 40. (2a 387)
Wonder why he said he was married not widowed on the 1891 census?

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 16 May 2008 21:03

1901 census
47 High St., Queenboro, kent
Daniel Corke, head, 50, platelayer cement factory, born London, Chelsea
Louisa, wife, 37, born Kent, Dover
James D., son, 24, labourer cement factory, born Kent, Baddock Wood
Stephen M., son, 18, labourer cement factory, born Kent, Little Brook
William H., son, 7, Meopham?
Alice L., dau, 6, born Kent, Minster Sheppey
Ernest A., son, 1, born Queenboro

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 16 May 2008 20:55

Thanks Margaret. Lillian is the first child of his new relationship I think.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 16 May 2008 20:51

1891 census
Chelsfield Rd., Eynsham, Kent
Daniel Cork, head, married, 45, farm labourer, born London, Chelsea
Louisa J. Kimber, housekeeper, widow, 31, born Kent, Dover
James D. Cork, son, 15, farm labourer, born Kent, Paddock Wood
Rose B. N., dau, 14, born Kent, Stockbury
Beatrice O., dau, 10, scholar, born London, Finsbury
Stephen M., son, 7, scholar, born Kent, Dartford
Daisy W., dau, 6, scholar, born Dartford
Lillian M., dau, 3 months, born Eynsham

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 16 May 2008 20:38

Am waiting for Daniels marriage certificate to arrive. Meanwhile, in trying to sort this lot out, can some kind person please see if they can find him or his family on the 1891or 1901 census? There should be a daughter Daisy born c1885 somewhere about. Thanks.

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 12 May 2008 14:00

Hi all. Well, I've certainly got something to check with now. I don't have the marriage cert for Daniel and Olive, just info from a relative - 11.6.1870 at The Zion Chapel, Brewery Lane, Maidstone. I think I may apply for it just to make sure. Olive apparently died in the 1880s after having about 7 children because Daniel then either married or lived with a Louise Kimber and had six more children! Thanks for your continued searching.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 12 May 2008 13:52

Well I am not convinced that Daniel is the son of Richard so I am back to the question of the marriage cert as to who is listed as the father and his occupation

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 12 May 2008 13:40

Other children of Richard & Jane in Seal, but no Daniel:

CORKE, Eliza Christening
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 11 Dec 1853 Recorded in: Seal, Kent, England
Father: Richard CORKE
Mother: Jane
Source: FHL Film 1469486 Dates: 1813 - 1864

CORK, Alice Christening
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 12 Oct 1856 Recorded in: Seal, Kent, England
Father: Richard CORK
Mother: Jane
Source: FHL Film 1469486 Dates: 1813 - 1864

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 12 May 2008 13:40

Just wondering about this marriage

Marriages Mar 1845 (>99%)
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APPS Anne London 2 155
Apps Jane London 2 155
COPPE Edward Michael London 2 155
Corke Richard London 2 155
JACKSON Elizabeth Martha London 2 155
JOHNSON Mary London 2 155
SIDGWICK William Keen London 2 155
Sidgwick William * London 2 155
Whistler Anna London 2 155

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 12 May 2008 13:37

Daughter Mary Ann on BVRI:

CORKE, Mary Ann Christening
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 16 Feb 1862 Recorded in: Seal, Kent, England
Father: Richard CORKE
Mother: Jane
Source: FHL Film 1469486 Dates: 1813 - 1864

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!)

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!) Report 12 May 2008 13:34

Hi Cynthia

Not sure about the legal side of things - families or individuals were quite often absent for some reason. They might have been travelling between areas on the day of the count, they might have wanted to stay "hidden", they may have just been very badly mistranscribed. I've found the latter is the more usual reason.

It's difficult to find people on 1841 partly because the ages were rounded down to the nearest 5 years and partly because it does not give place of birth - only whether or not born in county.

The other thing I've noticed is that on census returns where say, your Richard says he was born in Stone - that may not be correct. He may have been born somewhere outside of Kent - and the family may have moved to Kent when he was a small child. He may therefore have thought that's where he was born.

J

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 12 May 2008 13:29

1861 just wondering about this one

Name: Daniel Cork
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George
Gender: Male
Where born: Brompton, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: St Luke
Ecclesiastical parish: St Barnabas
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: St Luke
Sub registration district: City Road
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 122
Household Members: Name Age
Daniel Cork 19
George Cork 48



1881 just for info
Name: Daniell Cork
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Olive
Gender: Male
Where born: Chelsea, Surrey, England

Civil Parish: Frindsbury
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address: 4 Oak St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Farm Labourer

Registration district: North Aylesford
Sub registration district: Strood
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Adelaide Cork 11
Annie Cork 8
Beatrice Cork
Daniell Cork 39
James Cork 5
Olive Cork 35
Rosa Cork 3

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 12 May 2008 13:28

Do you have the marriage cert for Daniel?

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 12 May 2008 13:27

Hi Jill, what is the likely explanation for not being on two census(i) ! I always though you were legally bound to register - have you any ideas on that? Thanks for info so far.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 12 May 2008 13:26

1871 just for info

Name: Daniel Corke
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Olive
Gender: Male
Where born: Chelsea, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Offham
Ecclesiastical parish: Offham
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Malling
Sub registration district: Wrotham
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household schedule number: 75
Household Members: Name Age
Adelaide Delmar Corke 2 months
Daniel Corke 26
Olive Corke 23

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 12 May 2008 13:24

Things seem to be taking shape a bit. Thanks. If it helps, Daniel married an Olive Martin in 1870 in Maidstone. I would dearly love to find out about Richard's first wife though.

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!)

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!) Report 12 May 2008 13:23

Cannot see any of them in 1841 or 1851 ...