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Can someone please look up Richard Cork (may have an 'e' at end) who was born c1812 at Stone in Kent.

I have seen him on the 1881 census aged 68 and living at Trottiscliffe, Kent with a wife (Mary Ann) who is 20! I think he must have been married before as one of his sons - Daniel - is my great grandfather and was born around 1844 but I'm not sure where. Any extra details would be appreciated. Thank you.

1881 just for ref
Name: Richard Cork
Age: 68
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1813
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Stone, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Trottiscliffe
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address: Village
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Ag Lab

Registration district: Malling
Sub registration district: Wrotham
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Infant Cork grandson
Mary Ann Cork 26 wife
Mary Ann Cork 20 daughter, born Seal Kent
Richard Cork 68
Emma Still 11 servant
John E. Swaisland 5 listed as son


Births Dec 1875 (>99%)
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Swaisland John Edward Malling 2a 517

Found the family in 1861 and 1891 (both as Corke). Can't see him in any others yet and can't see Daniel ...

Jill

1871

Name: Richard Cocke
Age: 59
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1812
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Stone, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Offham
Ecclesiastical parish: Offham
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Malling
Sub registration district: Wrotham
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household schedule number: 74
Household Members: Name Age
Alice Cocke 15
Elizabeth Cocke 12
Mary Ann Cocke 9 born Seal
Richard Cocke 59
Stephen Cocke 20 born Seal

Cannot see any of them in 1841 or 1851 ...

Things seem to be taking shape a bit. Thanks. If it helps, Daniel married an Olive Martin in 1870 in Maidstone. I would dearly love to find out about Richard's first wife though.

1871 just for info

Name: Daniel Corke
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Olive
Gender: Male
Where born: Chelsea, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Offham
Ecclesiastical parish: Offham
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Malling
Sub registration district: Wrotham
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household schedule number: 75
Household Members: Name Age
Adelaide Delmar Corke 2 months
Daniel Corke 26
Olive Corke 23

Hi Jill, what is the likely explanation for not being on two census(i) ! I always though you were legally bound to register - have you any ideas on that? Thanks for info so far.

Do you have the marriage cert for Daniel?

1861 just wondering about this one

Name: Daniel Cork
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George
Gender: Male
Where born: Brompton, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: St Luke
Ecclesiastical parish: St Barnabas
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: St Luke
Sub registration district: City Road
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 122
Household Members: Name Age
Daniel Cork 19
George Cork 48



1881 just for info
Name: Daniell Cork
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Olive
Gender: Male
Where born: Chelsea, Surrey, England

Civil Parish: Frindsbury
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address: 4 Oak St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Farm Labourer

Registration district: North Aylesford
Sub registration district: Strood
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Adelaide Cork 11
Annie Cork 8
Beatrice Cork
Daniell Cork 39
James Cork 5
Olive Cork 35
Rosa Cork 3

Hi Cynthia

Not sure about the legal side of things - families or individuals were quite often absent for some reason. They might have been travelling between areas on the day of the count, they might have wanted to stay "hidden", they may have just been very badly mistranscribed. I've found the latter is the more usual reason.

It's difficult to find people on 1841 partly because the ages were rounded down to the nearest 5 years and partly because it does not give place of birth - only whether or not born in county.

The other thing I've noticed is that on census returns where say, your Richard says he was born in Stone - that may not be correct. He may have been born somewhere outside of Kent - and the family may have moved to Kent when he was a small child. He may therefore have thought that's where he was born.

J

Daughter Mary Ann on BVRI:

CORKE, Mary Ann Christening
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 16 Feb 1862 Recorded in: Seal, Kent, England
Father: Richard CORKE
Mother: Jane
Source: FHL Film 1469486 Dates: 1813 - 1864

Just wondering about this marriage

Marriages Mar 1845 (>99%)
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APPS Anne London 2 155
Apps Jane London 2 155
COPPE Edward Michael London 2 155
Corke Richard London 2 155
JACKSON Elizabeth Martha London 2 155
JOHNSON Mary London 2 155
SIDGWICK William Keen London 2 155
Sidgwick William * London 2 155
Whistler Anna London 2 155

Other children of Richard & Jane in Seal, but no Daniel:

CORKE, Eliza Christening
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 11 Dec 1853 Recorded in: Seal, Kent, England
Father: Richard CORKE
Mother: Jane
Source: FHL Film 1469486 Dates: 1813 - 1864

CORK, Alice Christening
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 12 Oct 1856 Recorded in: Seal, Kent, England
Father: Richard CORK
Mother: Jane
Source: FHL Film 1469486 Dates: 1813 - 1864

Well I am not convinced that Daniel is the son of Richard so I am back to the question of the marriage cert as to who is listed as the father and his occupation

Hi all. Well, I've certainly got something to check with now. I don't have the marriage cert for Daniel and Olive, just info from a relative - 11.6.1870 at The Zion Chapel, Brewery Lane, Maidstone. I think I may apply for it just to make sure. Olive apparently died in the 1880s after having about 7 children because Daniel then either married or lived with a Louise Kimber and had six more children! Thanks for your continued searching.

Am waiting for Daniels marriage certificate to arrive. Meanwhile, in trying to sort this lot out, can some kind person please see if they can find him or his family on the 1891or 1901 census? There should be a daughter Daisy born c1885 somewhere about. Thanks.

1891 census
Chelsfield Rd., Eynsham, Kent
Daniel Cork, head, married, 45, farm labourer, born London, Chelsea
Louisa J. Kimber, housekeeper, widow, 31, born Kent, Dover
James D. Cork, son, 15, farm labourer, born Kent, Paddock Wood
Rose B. N., dau, 14, born Kent, Stockbury
Beatrice O., dau, 10, scholar, born London, Finsbury
Stephen M., son, 7, scholar, born Kent, Dartford
Daisy W., dau, 6, scholar, born Dartford
Lillian M., dau, 3 months, born Eynsham

Thanks Margaret. Lillian is the first child of his new relationship I think.

1901 census
47 High St., Queenboro, kent
Daniel Corke, head, 50, platelayer cement factory, born London, Chelsea
Louisa, wife, 37, born Kent, Dover
James D., son, 24, labourer cement factory, born Kent, Baddock Wood
Stephen M., son, 18, labourer cement factory, born Kent, Little Brook
William H., son, 7, Meopham?
Alice L., dau, 6, born Kent, Minster Sheppey
Ernest A., son, 1, born Queenboro