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Got the cert for Frank Hall to see if he was the son of Emma Hall and her first husband or the son of Emma and Henry Fellows 1849...............He was a Hall and not a Fellows even though later he cheanged his name to Fellows

It likely wouldn't help, but one never knows -- the birth of Frank Hall, Emma Hall's child in 1881:


Births Dec 1880
HALL Frank Sheffield 9c 456


Mind you, there was one born in Aston the same quarter, just in case the 1881 census isn't accurate:

HALL Frank Aston 6d 417

Just thought it might be a teeny bit of help to rule out the Henry in 1871 with wife Mary A and daughter Sarah.

They're in the 1881:

Name: Sarah Fellows
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Henry
Mother's Name: Mary Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Tipton, Staffordshire, England

Gosh looks like a dear couple of weeks I'm going to have sending for cert's

Thanks everyone

Have you seen this one?

Births Dec 1874 (>99%)

Fellowes Henry John Birmingham 6d 50

Found this birth record?

Births Mar 1875 (>99%)
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Fellows Ralph Harry Birmingham 6d 22

Joan

I'll go and have a look at these ........

Part of me is begining to think i won't find a wife / Mother at all

Jessie, have you looked at this marriage? It's possible that Henry Sr. may have married his first wife between Emma and Henry. This happened in my family (husband was a mariner). My ancestor had 3 childen by her husband prior to the marriage. And then proceeded to have 5-6 more children.

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about Henry Fellows
Name: Henry Fellows
Year of Registration: 1873
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Aston (1837-1924)
County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 353

Record
Julia Bedford 1873 Apr-May-Jun Aston (1837-1924) Warwickshire
View Record
George Duggan 1873 Apr-May-Jun Aston (1837-1924) Warwickshire
View Record
Henry Fellows 1873 Apr-May-Jun Aston (1837-1924) Warwickshire
View Record
Lucy Kinber 1873 Apr-May-Jun Aston (1837-1924) Warwickshire

and there's this possibility?

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about Philip Henry Fellows
Name: Philip Henry Fellows
Year of Registration: 1865
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Birmingham (1837-1924)
County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 206

Sarah Cunningham 1865 Jul-Aug-Sep Birmingham (1837-1924) Warwickshire
View Record
Philip Henry Fellows 1865 Jul-Aug-Sep Birmingham (1837-1924) Warwickshire
View Record
Samuel Peck 1865 Jul-Aug-Sep Birmingham (1837-1924) Warwickshire
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Ann Whitmore 1865 Jul-Aug-Sep Birmingham (1837-1924) Warwickshire
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Eliza Williams 1865 Jul-Aug-Sep Birmingham (1837-1924) Warwickshire

for ref..................the twin brother of Henry 1849...

1871 England Census
about Wallace Fellows
Name: Wallace Fellows
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Birmingham
Civil Parish: Ecclesall Bierlow
Ecclesiastical parish: Eldon Street
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image
Registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow
Sub registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Household schedule number: 55
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Fellows 24
Arthur Fellows 7 months
Wallace Fellows 22
Wallace E Fellows 3

Joan - the Cread one is not a connection, I bookmarked this one a while back and looked for the link but drew a blank with her due to her appearing later in census records

Emma Cread Fellows in 1881, the Emma in my tree is in Sheffield in 1881

1881 England Census
about Emma Creed Fellows
Name: Emma Creed Fellows
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Scholar
Gender: Female
Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

Civil Parish: Bromsgrove
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England

Street address: Highfield House School New Road
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Bromsgrove
Sub registration district: Bromsgrove
ED, institution, or vessel: 3

This is Henry the father of Emma and Henry ( junior ) in 1861 with his family

1861 England Census
about Henry Fellows
Name: Henry Fellows
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Birm, Warwickshire, England

Civil Parish: Aston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Aston
Sub registration district: Duddeston
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 134
Household Members: Name Age
Arthur Fellows 7
Edwin Fellows 10
Elizabeth Fellows 44
Henry Fellows 12
John Fellows 42
Samuel Fellows 14
Thomas Fellows 16
Wellesley Fellows 5
William Fellows 18
William Fellows 12


Just need to locate him in 1871 to solve the mystery of who the mother of his children was

Here's another possibility?

1871 England Census
about Emma Cread Fellows
Name: Emma Cread Fellows
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Granddaughter
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Female
Where born: Aston, Warwickshire, England
Civil Parish: Aston
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
Town: Duddeston Cum Nechells
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image
Registration district: Aston
Sub registration district: Duddeston
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Household schedule number: 79
Household Members: Name Age
Sarah Ann Bast 17
Emma Creed 47
Thomas Creed 46
Elizabeth Dent 14
Elizabeth Fellows 23
Emma Cread Fellows 1
William Edward Fellows 3
Elizabeth Newman 20

Emma Cread Fellows not the Emma in my family.....she is with her in later census


Joan the one you have posted looks interesting, but not sure as Sarah doesn't appear with the family in 1881 and Emma isn't showing in this census

Could this be the father Henry?

1871 England Census
about Henry Fellows
Name: Henry Fellows
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary A
Gender: Male
Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Civil Parish: Bilston
Ecclesiastical parish: Ettingshall Holy Trinity
Town: Bilston
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation: LABORER OF IRON WORKS

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image
Registration district: Wolverhampton
Sub registration district: Bilston
ED, institution, or vessel: 34
Household schedule number: 135
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Fellows 22
Mary A Fellows 23
Sarah Fellows 6 months

Shirely see the post above the workhouse one..........In 1881 his children are living with Emma Hall who later becomes their step mother

Those are the cert's that I sent for about two years ago and both were not my great grandad.

here is one in 1873 near watford
Births Jun 1873 (>99%)
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Fellows Henry Frederick Watford 3a 369

two henrys born 1876 not 1874

Births Jun 1876 (>99%)
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FELLOWS Henry W Bromwich 6b 901
FELLOWS Henry Thomas Solihull 6d 581

his family are not there with him in the workhouse

link for workhouse in sheffield
http://www.workhouses.org.uk/index.html?Sheffield/Sheffield.shtml

Their father for ref in 1881

1881 England Census
about Henry Fellows
Name: Henry Fellows
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Pauper
Gender: Male
Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

Civil Parish: Sheffield
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address: "Sheffield Union Work House" Kelham St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Tin Plate Worker

Registration district: Sheffield
Sub registration district: North Sheffield
ED, institution, or vessel: Sheffield Union Workhouse Kelham St