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I am trying to find out anything about the Tediman family. Martha was the mother of my grandfather George Madden. He was born in London in 1880. I know there are different ways of spelling Tediman but this is how it is spelt on my grandfathers birth certificate. I can not find Martha anywhere and I am wondering if Tediman is an Irish name?

Sheila

Is the birth of George registered as Madden?

Do you have him on any census at all?

Maureen

Is George Madden on the 1881 census? I can't find one with a mother called Martha.

Kath. x

Mad guess time

Marriages Sep 1879 (>99%)
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JONES Mary Ann Strand 1b 967
JONES Samuel Strand 1b 967
MADDIN George Strand 1b 967
TEIDEMAN Martha Strand 1b 967
TRIDEMAN Martha Strand 1b 967

I was just about to say I couldnt find a mother called martha. I was going to suggest this was the household

Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
James MADDEN Head M Male 37 St Pancras, Middlesex, England Messenger
Elizabeth Emma MADDEN Wife Female 35 East Isles, Berkshire, England Messenger Wife
Charles William MADDEN Son Male 5 Paddington W Messenger Son
Rose MADDEN Daur Female 4 Paddington W Messenger Daughter
George MADDEN Son Male 8 m Paddington W Messenger Son
Ada FOSTER Serv U Female 16 Paddington W General Domestic Servant
Rothwell HARRISON Lodger U Male 24 ... Pethartor, Somerset, England Merchants Sherry Ships
Mary Anne CHAPMAN Lodger U Female 52 Paddington W Annuitant
Albany F. WALLACE Lodger U Male 52 Paddington W Clerk Out Of Employment


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Source Information:
Dwelling 44 Back Place
Census Place London, Middlesex, England
Family History Library Film 1341005
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 0021 / 4
Page Number 1

Although now looking at your results I've found this

Martha Teideman Compact Disc #115 Pin #740524 Pedigree
Sex: F

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Event(s)
Birth: 1862

St Paul, Covent Garden, Westminster, Middlesex, England

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Parents
Father: George Teideman Disc #115 Pin #739597
Mother: Eliza Higgins Disc #115 Pin #740521

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Marriage(s)
Spouse: George Maddin Disc #115 Pin #740527
Marriage: 1879
London, Middlesex, England

Here's Martha on the 1871 census

1871 England Census
about Martha Teideman
Name: Martha Teideman
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Eliza
Gender: Female
Where born: St Giles
Civil Parish: St Mary Le Strand
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Le Strand
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Strand
Sub-registration district: St Mary le Strand
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Household schedule number: 238
Household Members: Name Age
Eliza Teideman 40
George Teideman 42
George Teideman 12
Martha Teideman 9
Mary Ann Teideman 6
Sarah Jane Teideman 14
Sinclair Teideman 1

And on the 1891 census with 2 girls. unsure of where this is though

1891 England Census
about Martha Madden
Name: Martha Madden
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Gender: Female
Where born: St Giles, London, England

Civil Parish: St Clement Danes
Ecclesiastical parish: St Clement Danes
Town: Westminster
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Strand
Sub-registration district: St Clement Danes
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Letitia Andrews 54
Minera S Angles 50
Mary Armstrong 42
Louisa Arrandale 68
Louise Berrington 43
Mary Bird 57
Fanny Bogg 49
Sarah Boyce 54
Bridget Brown 62
Elizabeth Brown 33
Bridget Bryan 48
Ada Carnell 19
Mary Christian 29
Jane Clancy 50
Annie Clements 38
Isabella Clifford 63
Ellen Davis 45
Susan Dowley 55
Mary Dunn 40
Johanna Dwyer 58
Mary A Edwards 37
Janet Ellems 38
Julia Evans 27
Julia Fair 52
Madge Gilbert 27
Mary Greenfield 68
Minnie Hamilton 23
Eleanor Hanson 40
Alice Harris 37
Catherine Harris 60
Mary Herbert 30
Florrie Hessen 33
Matilda Howard 67
Jane Ingham 47
Louisa Ingham 18
Martha Ingham 13
Mary Johnson 64
Carlotta Johnza 21
Mary Jones 32
Mary A Jones 41
Lilian Keen 23
Mary Keen 56
Sarah Keen 50
Mary Kelly 70
Laura Kennedy 26
Annie Lane 19
Anne Lewis 32
Mary A Lynes 60
Margaret Mack 38
Elizabeth Madden 2
Lottie Madden 8/12
Martha Madden 28
Louisa Martin 33
Jane McCarthy 53
Kate McCarthy 46
Mary McCarthy 37
Eliza McCormick 39
Mary McKenzie 47
Ann Mills 64
Anne Monetta 48
Kent More 34
Catherine Noe 57
Maria Nolan 39
Ann Norrie 30
William Norrie 32
Mary A Page 39
Jane Phillips 45
Catherine Rennie 40
Catherine Reynolds 56
Alice Sacre 20
Betsy Semard 59
Catherine Sheens 33
Mary Shinn 51
Catherine Sinnot 60
Alicia Sparrow 62
Mary Sullivan 58
Sarah Sumbler 25
Sarah Surrey 56
Annie Thompson 37
Maria Trubee 53
Elizabeth Welsh 47
Lilian Whitehead 40
Hannah Wood 58

I can't find her at all on the 1881 census sorry

1881 poss

Name: Sinclair Teidman
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Eliza
Gender: Male
Where born: St Pauls, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: St Martin in The Fields
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 13 Mercer St
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Porter

Registration district: Strand
Sub-registration district: St Martin In The Fields
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
*****Martha Medin 19
Eliza Teidman 48
George Teidman 52
George Teidman 22
Jane Teidman 24
Mary Teidman 16
Sinclair Teidman 13



Looks like married on image

Looks likely. So she was married but living with her parents?

1881 name correction has already been made to Martha to show surname as Teidman.


So where is George born 1880 and his father?

Maureen

Oh bother the name correction on Ancestry is one of those you can not see why the alteration has been made !!!

definitely married by this point

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
George TEIDMAN Head M Male 52 St Pauls, Middlesex, England Salesman
Eliza TEIDMAN Wife M Female 48 St Pauls, Middlesex, England
Jane TEIDMAN Daur U Female 24 St Pauls, Middlesex, England
George TEIDMAN Son U Male 22 St Pauls, Middlesex, England Salesman
Martha MEDIN Daur M Female 19 St Pauls, Middlesex, England
Mary TEIDMAN Daur U Female 16 St Pauls, Middlesex, England Domestic Servant
Sinclair TEIDMAN Son Male 13 St Pauls, Middlesex, England Porter


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Source Information:
Dwelling 13 Mercer St
Census Place London, Middlesex, England
Family History Library Film 1341071
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 0329 / 10
Page Number 16


but where is George Madden?

Would love to know the occupation for George on the birth cert

Maureen

This one's baffling me!

Really need some more info from Sheila so will leave for now.


Maureen

??? George and Eliza in 1901???

1901 Census

Name: Eliza Tiedeman
Age: 68
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Relation: Inmate
Gender: Female
Where born: St Ann'S Holborn

Civil Parish: Bloomsbury and St Giles
Ecclesiastical parish: St Giles in the Fields
County/Island: London
Country: England

Registration district: St Giles
Sub-registration district: Bloomsbury and St Giles, South
ED, institution, or vessel: St Giles in the Fields and St George Bloomsbury Workhouse
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Household Members: Name Age
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.
Martha Tapp 41
Eliza Tiedeman 68 Married, Charwoman
Elizabeth Timmins 76
Sarah Tinsley 68
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.

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Name: George Tiedeman
Age: 74
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Relation: Inmate
Gender: Male
Where born: Wc, St Paul'S Covent Garden

Civil Parish: Bloomsbury and St Giles
Ecclesiastical parish: St Giles in the Fields
County/Island: London
Country: England

Registration district: St Giles
Sub-registration district: Bloomsbury and St Giles, South
ED, institution, or vessel: St Giles in the Fields and St George Bloomsbury Workhouse
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
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Annie Stockford 43
George Tiedeman 74 Married, General Porter
Henry Willm Tinsley 69
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.


sylvia

Did Martha remarry before 1901 then?

Here is George Teideman's birth info and marriage

George Teideman Compact Disc #115 Pin #739597 Pedigree
Sex: M

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Event(s)
Birth: 3 May 1829

Covent Garden, Westminster, Middlesex, England
Christening: 4 Jun 1830

Saint Paul Church, Covent Garden, Westminster, Middlesex, England

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Parents
Father: Charles Thomas Teideman Disc #115 Pin #739282
Mother: Sarah Disc #115 Pin #739283

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Marriage(s)
Spouse: Eliza Higgins Disc #115 Pin #740521
Marriage: 20 Jan 1856
St Annes Church, Soho, Westminster, Middlesex, England



And Eliza's

Eliza Higgins Compact Disc #115 Pin #740521 Pedigree
Sex: F

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Event(s)
Birth: abt 1833

St Pauls, Middlesex, England

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Parents
Father: Sinclair Higgins Disc #115 Pin #741076

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Marriage(s)
Spouse: George Teideman Disc #115 Pin #739597
Marriage: 20 Jan 1856
St Annes Church, Soho, Westminster, Middlesex, England

Charles Teideman's info


Charles Thomas Teideman Compact Disc #115 Pin #739282 Pedigree
Sex: M

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Event(s)
Birth: 1796

Portsea, Hampshire, England
Death: 30 Sep 1852

Kings College Hospital, St Clement Danes, Middlesex, England
Burial:

St Paul Church, Covent Garden, Westminster, Middlesex, England

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Parents

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Marriage(s)
Spouse: Sarah Disc #115 Pin #739283
Marriage:



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Personal Information
Occupation:
Copper Plate Printer