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Maureen
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10 Mar 2008 21:44 |
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I am looking for the marriage of Thomas Schofield and Eliza Ann Leiboodene or something very similar. I have purchased 2 of their childrens birth certificates but on both of them the surname of the mother is not clear. Their first child was born c1849. I have tried searching for the entry of marriage for Thomas and then looking through all the "L's to match with the entry number. They are living in Limehouse,Stepney in 1861 and their children were born in Limehouse. Dose anybody recognise Eliza's surname? Eliza was born in Portsea Hants and Thomas was born in Shoreditch Middlesex.
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Maureen
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10 Mar 2008 22:27 |
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NUDGE
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WayneTracey
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10 Mar 2008 22:32 |
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Maureen,
What was the name of the child born 1849?
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Maureen
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10 Mar 2008 22:36 |
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hi there are 7 children by 1861. the first was rosina schofield c1849 the 2 certificates i bought are alfred edward schofield 1859 and frederic william schofield 1857
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WayneTracey
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10 Mar 2008 22:38 |
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have you found them on any census?
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WayneTracey
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10 Mar 2008 22:39 |
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A touch earlier than 1849....
Births Sep 1847 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Schofield Rosina Stepney 2 446
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WayneTracey
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10 Mar 2008 22:46 |
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for ref...
1861 England Census about Rosina Schofield Name: Rosina Schofield Age: 13 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Thomas Mother's Name: Eliza A Gender: Female Where born: Limehouse, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Bromley County/Island: Middlesex Country: England
Registration district: Poplar Sub-registration district: Bow
Alfred E Schofield 1 Arthur S Schofield 6 Eliza A Schofield 34 Fredrick W Schofield Louisa C Schofield 8 Mo Rosina Schofield 13 Thomas Schofield 34 Thomas H Schofield 11 Walter E Schofield 5
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WayneTracey
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10 Mar 2008 22:56 |
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Have i found her??
1841 England Census about Eliza Lenanton Name: Eliza Lenanton Age: 14 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827 Gender: Female Where born: Hampshire, England Civil Parish: Portsea Town Hundred: Portsmouth Borough County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Registration district: Portsea Island Sub-registration district: Landport and Southern
Amelia Lenanton 2 Anna Lenanton 43 Eliza Lenanton 14 Jno Lenanton 8 Lydia Lenanton 11 Tho Lenanton 45 Tho Lenanton 16 Wm N Lenanton 6
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WayneTracey
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10 Mar 2008 23:00 |
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or this one??
1841 England Census about Eliza Littlefield Name: Eliza Littlefield Age: 14 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827 Gender: Female Where born: Hampshire, England Civil Parish: Portsea Town Hundred: Portsmouth Borough County/Island: Hampshire Country: England
Registration district: Portsea Island Sub-registration district: Landport and Southern
Alfred Littlefield 4 Amelia Littlefield 7 Edward Littlefield 9 Mo Eliza Littlefield 30 Eliza Littlefield 14 Emma Littlefield 9 James Littlefield 12 Jeminia Littlefield 3 Robert Littlefield 35 Robert Littlefield 13
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Pam
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10 Mar 2008 23:04 |
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Perhaps this one is a possibility
1841 England Census about Eliza Lenanton Name: Eliza Lenanton Age: 14 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827 Gender: Female Where born: Hampshire, England Civil Parish: Portsea Town Hundred: Portsmouth Borough County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation: Registration district: Portsea Island Sub-registration district: Landport and Southern Neighbors: Household Members: Name Age Amelia Lenanton 2 Anna Lenanton 43 Eliza Lenanton 14 Jno Lenanton 8 Lydia Lenanton 11 Tho Lenanton 45 Tho Lenanton 16 Wm N Lenanton 6
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Maureen
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10 Mar 2008 23:09 |
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hi
i have the 1861 census, that is where i got the childrens names from. i am trying to find the marriage to get me back another generation. i have found an entry for thomas schofield married in 1845, st lukes which is the area they were living in. I could take the chance and buy this one and give Eliza's name as a confirmation check.
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Maureen
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10 Mar 2008 23:15 |
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hi pam that looks promising, will now use that name to see if it checks with the marriage i found. thanks
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Pam
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10 Mar 2008 23:17 |
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Don't think it is Lenanton as I found this marriage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ELIZA ANN LENANTON Female
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: Christening: Death: Burial:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages: Spouse: PHILIP VIDLER Family Marriage: 14 MAY 1863 Saint Marys, Portsea, Hampshire, England Husband Age at Marriage: 41 Wife Age at Marriage: 35
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Maureen
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10 Mar 2008 23:37 |
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hi yes i have just discovered that eliza was a servant in 1851 and still in portsea and then her marriage in 1863. try again.!! i wonder what kind of accent she had when she registered her children? both registrars have written the name she said in a similar way. she made her mark, so could not write it down for him.
one cert is clearer than the first i bought but it is definately an L to start then ei or an open a, i thought at first it could be jewish as they were living in east london but then she came from hampshire. thanks everyone for trying
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Dea
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11 Mar 2008 08:41 |
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Well, believe it or not, this IS your family on 1851 census - very badly transcribed !!
You need to check the image but it is them - not sure it helps though, I was hoping they would have a relative with them.
Thomas Longfield Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Eliza Gender: Male Where born: Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Limehouse County/Island: Middlesex Country: England
Registration district: Stepney Sub-registration district: Limehouse ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Benjamin Burgess 19 Eliza Longfield 15 Rebecca Longfield 3 Thomas Longfield 25 Thomas Longfield 1
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1554; Folio: 10; Page: 12; GSU roll: 174786.
Thomas is a 'Nautical Brazier' and the address 'could be 152 Smith St?? - It is a very difficult image to read.
I will go and have another 'dig around'
Dea x
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Pam
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11 Mar 2008 09:26 |
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Perhaps the Records Office could help by looking at the oiginal you
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Dea
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11 Mar 2008 10:16 |
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If you would like a second opinion on what is written on the birth certs, I would be happy to take a look for you.
Let me know if you want me to try and I will send you my direct e-mail address.
Dea x
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Dea
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11 Mar 2008 10:52 |
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It still doesn't help with Eliza but at least we know where Thomas was in 1841:
Name: Thomas Schofield Age: 16 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1825 Gender: Male Where born: Middlesex, England Civil Parish: St George in The East Hundred: Ossulstone (Tower Division) County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Registration district: St George in the East Sub-registration district: St Paul
Thomas Schofield 16 - apprentice to Charles Humphrey - living with the Huphrey family at Pennington Street Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 697; Book: 10; Civil Parish: St George in The East; County: Middlesex; Enumeration District: 22; Folio: 43; Page: 5; Line: 11; GSU roll: 438812.
Dea x
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WayneTracey
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11 Mar 2008 13:06 |
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Hi There
Found this very nice site for you while trying to find a decent parish records site for Stepney...
Sadly the timescale you want hasn't been completed yet, but it's cheap and instant for the stuff that is there,,
http://www.parishregister.com/searchpage.asp
Regards
Tracey
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Maureen
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11 Mar 2008 18:48 |
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hi everybody, thank you all for helping me, especially Dea who found Thomas in 1851 and then again in 1841. I might have to let that side of the tree come to an abrupt end. Next time i am at the records office i will take the certificate with me and see if they can solve it. Maureen
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