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Lisa
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22 Feb 2008 23:26 |
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thanks again,
sweet dreams
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MrsBucketBouquet
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22 Feb 2008 23:24 |
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Good luck Lisa...bedtimes calling.....
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Lisa
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22 Feb 2008 23:20 |
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thank you.
i have posted on Tips board for keate street.
thanks for all your help
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MrsBucketBouquet
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22 Feb 2008 23:18 |
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Thats what it says! I even looked at the original.
Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 249; Folio: 108; Page: 2; GSU roll: 542599.
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Lisa
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22 Feb 2008 23:17 |
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thats a strange census.... head ann?, wife ellen? and sister to head alice? am i reading that right?
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MrsBucketBouquet
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22 Feb 2008 23:17 |
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Lisa
Go ask on tips board and ask for a street search...Keate Street.
I'm not sure how it's done...but i do know it's possible...sorry i cant help more.
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MrsBucketBouquet
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22 Feb 2008 23:11 |
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Just for the hell of it!....
1861 England Census about Ellen Daniels Name: Ellen Daniels Age: 24 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837 Relation: Wife Gender: Female Where born: St Lukes, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Shoreditch St Leonard Ecclesiastical parish: Haggerston St Mary County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Shoreditch Sub-registration district: Haggerstone East ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 9 Household Members: Name Age Ann Chapman 83 ...head.born: Sundridge, Durham Ellen Daniels 24 ...married. Alice Warner 16 ..sister to head .born: St Lukes, Middlesex
Maybe it should be sister to Ellen? If thats the case,,,,it's not your Ellen :-(
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Lisa
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22 Feb 2008 23:03 |
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found this - KEATE street - same street as Daniels in 1841 & 61:
1861 extract: CRAWLEY, Patrick Head Widower M 45 Silk Weaver Dublin Ireland COALSWORTH, Henry Lodger Unmarried M 20 Warking Stick Maker Spitalfields Middlesex CRAWLY, Margaret Daughter Unmarried F 15 Stick Weaver Spitalfields Middlesex CRAWLY, Emma Daughter Unmarried F 8 Scholar Spitalfields Middlesex RG number:RG09 Piece:266 Folio:95 Page:45 Registration District:Whitechapel Sub District:2 Spitalfields EnumerationDistrict:13 Ecclesiastical Parish:Christchurch Civil Parish:Spitalfields Municipal Borough: Address:12, Keate Street, Spitalfields County: London, Middlesex tried to search by street and cant find keate street, spitalfields in 1871,81 or 91/ can you search by street?
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Lisa
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22 Feb 2008 22:55 |
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not sure about 1861, but thanks. I am hoping that as ellen married in 1859 that she will be a daniels by 1861. just havent found them yet.
the twins could be her..
Births Jun 1841 Crawley Ellen Whitechapel 2 535 Crawley James William Whitechapel 2 535
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22 Feb 2008 22:44 |
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I'm looking for 'Ellens' with a Patrick as Father.
Heres another...
1861 England Census about Ellen Crawley Name: Ellen Crawley Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Patrick Mother's Name: Ellen Gender: Female Where born: Cork, Ireland Civil Parish: St Giles Ecclesiastical parish: London Town: London County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: St Giles Sub-registration district: St Giles South ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 271 Household Members: Name Age Danl Crawley 8 born: St Giles, Middlesex Ellen Crawley 45 ..born: Cork, Ireland Ellen Crawley 20.. born: Cork, Ireland Mary Crawley 11 .. born: Surrey Patrick Crawley 53 .. born: Cork, Ireland.Occ Gen dealer Johanna Marney 17..lodger .born: Cork, Ireland
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MrsBucketBouquet
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22 Feb 2008 22:33 |
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1841 England Census about Ellen Crawley Name: Ellen Crawley Age: 3 wks Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841 Gender: Female Where born: Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Christ Church Spitalfields Hundred: Ossulstone (Tower Division) County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street address:
Occupation: View Image Registration district: Whitechapel Sub-registration district: Spitalfields Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Cornelius Crawley 2 Ellen Crawley 3 wks John Crawley 6 Margaret Crawley 25... born: Ireland Patrick Crawley 30... born: Ireland ..Occ Tailor William Crawley 3 wks -----
Census dates.
6 June 1841 (to work out Ellens DOB) Looks like she was a twin?
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Lisa
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22 Feb 2008 22:32 |
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this was george in 1841 if it helps at all..
DANIELS, John M 30 Umbrella M Middlesex DANIELS, Ann F 30 Middlesex DANIELS, John M 12 Middlesex DENIELS, Mary F 8 Middlesex DANIELS, Betsy F 6 Middlesex DANIELS, George M 4 Middlesex DANIELS, Maria F 2 Middlesex DANIELS, Nathan M 0 (10 DAYS) Middlesex STORER, George M 35 STORER, Grace F 30 Middlesex BURCHELL, Samuel M 40 Ireland BURCHELL, Mary F 40 Ireland BURCHELL, Saml M 12 Middlesex BURCHELL, Elizabeth F 14 Middlesex BURCHELL, Catherine F 8 Middlesex RG number:HO107 Piece:710 Book/Folio:10/11 age: 14 Registration District:Whitechapel Sub District:Spitalfields EnumerationDistrict: Ecclesiastical Parish: Civil Parish:Christchurch Municipal Borough: Tower Hamlets Address:Keate Street, Christchurch, Tower Hamlets County:Middlesex **************************** possibly the father and sister in 1861: DANIELS, John Head Widower M 46 General Dealer Spitalfields Middlesex DANIELS, Maria Daughter Unmarried F 21 Spitalfields Middlesex DANIELS, Abraham W Son Unmarried M 15 Spitalfields Middlesex
RG number:RG09 Piece:266 Folio:89 Page:33 Registration District:Whitechapel Sub District:2 Spitalfields numerationDistrict:13 Ecclesiastical Parish:Christchurch Civil Parish:Spitalfields Municipal Borough: Address:8a, Lower Keate Street, Spitalfields County:London, Middlesex ********************* looks like they stayed around spittalfields/ whotechapel, well abraham did... a possible birth/ baptism and marriage for abraham
ABRAHAM WILLIAM DANIELS Male Birth: 28 JUL 1843 Christening: 16 AUG 1843 Saint Leonards, Shoreditch, London, England Marriages Jun 1868 Daniels Abraham William Bethnal Green 1c 570 possible wives: Gathard Eliza Bethnal Green 1c 570 MULLIS Sarah Bethnal Green 1c 570
1871 census - household transcription DANIELS, Abraham W Head M 26 Middlesex DANIELS, Sarah Wife F 24 Middlesex DANIELS, Danl W Son M 4 Middlesex DANIELS, Alfred Son M 0 Middlesex RG number:RG10 Piece:508 Folio:24 Page:3 Registration District:Whitechapel Sub District:Spitalfields EnumerationDistrict:11 Ecclesiastical Parish: Civil Parish:Christ Church Spitalfields Municipal Borough: Address:Thrawl Street, Christ Church Spitalfields County: London, Middlesex
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Lisa
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22 Feb 2008 22:25 |
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thank you for looking
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MrsBucketBouquet
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22 Feb 2008 22:15 |
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Joseph and Ellen Leary?
1871 England Census about Ellen Leary Name: Ellen Leary Age: 41 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Joseph Gender: Female Where born: Wapping, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: St George in The East Ecclesiastical parish: St John The Evangelist in the East County/Island: London Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration district: St George In The East Sub-registration district: St Mary ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 173 Household Members: Name Age James Donovan 16 Elizabeth Leary 12 Ellen Leary 41 George Leary 16 Joseph Leary 55 Joseph Leary 3 Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 531; Folio: 17; Page: 28; GSU roll: 823387.
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Lisa
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22 Feb 2008 22:14 |
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. If this is her death in 1881, i still cant find either of them in census as crawley/ daniels or soundex...
am open to suggestions
cant find patrick crawley, tailor. Cant find mary ann daniels/ burgess cant find ellen or george. cant find jane and robinson children either cant find daniels -cigar maker
i dont have 1851 access, but i have searched all the others
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Selena in South East London
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22 Feb 2008 22:06 |
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Yes I agree. Also she should be on the 1881 but I can't find her. Ages were sometimes wrong on death cert, the info given was only as good as the informant knew.
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Lisa
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22 Feb 2008 22:04 |
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ellen when married was age 19 in 1859, think 1881-36 makes her too young.???
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22 Feb 2008 22:01 |
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Possible?
Deaths Dec 1881 DANIELS Ellen 36 Poplar 1c 417
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22 Feb 2008 21:59 |
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1881 right area but wrong wife (unless this was a middle name etc)
George DANIELS Head M Male 46 Labourer In Iron Works May DANIELS Wife M Female 38 Amy DANIELS Daug U Female 19 Whitechapel, Middlesex, England Packer (Fact Lab) Emily DANIELS Daug U Female 17 Whitechapel, Middlesex, England Fancy Box Maker Alice DANIELS Daug U Female 14 Whitechapel, Middlesex, England Feather Curler Edith DANIELS Daug U Female 11 Whitechapel, Middlesex, England Scholar
Source Information: Dwelling 5 Bucks Row Census Place London, Middlesex, England Family History Library Film 1341096 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 0442 / 76 Page Number 9
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Lisa
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22 Feb 2008 21:58 |
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both marriage certs are a little blured.
trying to find out if any children with ellen. cant find them anywhere other than on marriage cert.
in 1859 he was a cigar maker, same profession as father. witness at that marriage was joseph leary and ellen leary.
address in 1859 marriage was Birch lane.
address in 1882 was 17 (albyon? maryann?) street, commercial road (think that was whitechapel too)
george in 1882 at marriage was general dealer (think, not quite readable, but think it reads as that)
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