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Lynnette

Lynnette Report 6 Jun 2010 20:55

I am trying to trace the father of Sarah Rock 1913-1980,
her mother was Rosannah Price and her father George Rock.The parents were married in March 1912 Stourbridge Vol 6c page 154
There was a birth of a George Rock also in stourbridge in Birth Reg Oct/Nov/dec 1879 Stourbridge Vol 6c Page 196

I am wondering if people think I should assume this is the father.
Thanks

Mike *

Mike * Report 6 Jun 2010 21:00

Never assume.

Have you acquired the marriage cert?
Could be clues on there like witnesses, father's occupation etc.

Work backwards from what you can prove.

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 6 Jun 2010 21:01

It's unwise to assume and could be very costly in time and money if you spend ages following the wrong line.

If you bought the marriage certificate of Rosannah and George, you would get their fathers 'names and occupations and hopefully be then able to find the family in census.
Witness names may also prove to be a big help.


Gwyn

Tenerife Sun

Tenerife Sun Report 6 Jun 2010 21:02

I can't find George Rock born 1879 Stourbridge in the 1911 census

EDIT *** It's possible he may have died as a baby

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
Deaths Mar 1882 (>99%)
ROCK George 2 Stourbridge 6c 76 Scan available - click to view


Wendy

Lynnette

Lynnette Report 6 Jun 2010 21:06

I'll endeavour to get the certificate, if only they were all digitised and avaliable online..

Ethel

Ethel Report 6 Jun 2010 21:13

Hi. There is an entry on the 1911 census for a George Rock. same birth area and Stourbridge. but he is already married. I would not assume that this one is the one you are looking for unless he married twice. Certificate needed. Ethel.

Christine2

Christine2 Report 6 Jun 2010 21:16

Hi Lynette - as everyone says you need the marriage cert. This may be one to bear in mind though when you get it.
Possible birth and deaths for him -

Death
George Rock
Death Registration Month/Year: 1916
Age at death (estimated): 30
Registration district: Stourbridge
Inferred County: Worcestershire
Volume: 6c
Page: 2

Birth

Births Mar 1886
ROCK George Hereford 6a 513

Lynnette

Lynnette Report 14 Jun 2010 12:58

The marriage Cert arived this morning, and details are as follows
Married March 9th 1912
George Rock age 25 bachelor tube maker living 58 Islington halesowen
Father-George Rock deceased-iron worker

Rosannah price age 20 Spinster Spike maker living 9 islington Halesowen
Father -George price -Bolt maker


Witnesses William Willetts
Annie Price

They were married in the parish church Halesowen in the county of worcester


Thankyou everyone for your help, with this and other questions ...

Lynnette

Lynnette Report 14 Jun 2010 13:10

Just noticed the age on the marriage cert doesn't match her DOB I have, she states she is 20 on the cert meaning she would have been born 1892 not 1879:(
But have found the birth reg for 1892 in March, still in stourbridge
But cannot find her on the 1901 census .

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 14 Jun 2010 13:19

1911 Census

Perhaps someone could check but I think that the Annie living with this George is his sister not his wife.

HOUSEHOLD ROCK GEORGE M 1887 24 Stourbridge Worcestershire

and his sister?

HOUSEHOLD ROCK ANNIE F 1885 26 Stourbridge Worcestershire

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 14 Jun 2010 13:27

1891 Census - Right area, george with his parents and older sister Annie.

Name: George Rock
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1886
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Middlesborough, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Halesowen
Ecclesiastical parish: Halesowen
Town: Halesowen
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Stourbridge
Sub-registration district: Halesowen
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George Rock 40 Iron Worker (Puddler)
Sarah Rock 36
Mary A Rock 12
Jane Rock 9
Ann Rock 7
George Rock 5
Fanny Rock 1


Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 2301; Folio 73; Page 25; GSU roll: 6097411.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 14 Jun 2010 13:29

Births Jun 1886 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Rock George Middlesbro' 9d 545

Lynnette

Lynnette Report 14 Jun 2010 13:30

Is there anyway to search by address on GR ?

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 14 Jun 2010 13:32

1911 Census

HOUSEHOLD PRICE ROSE F 1891 20 Stourbridge Worcestershire
HOUSEHOLD PRICE ANNIE F 1889 22 Stourbridge Worcestershire
HOUSEHOLD PRICE EDWARD M 1906 5 Stourbridge Worcestershire
HOUSEHOLD PRICE GEORGE M 1867 44 Stourbridge Worcestershire
HOUSEHOLD PRICE GERALD M 1897 14 Stourbridge Worcestershire
HOUSEHOLD PRICE MARY F 1867 44 Stourbridge Worcestershire
HOUSEHOLD PRICE PERCY M 1905 6 Stourbridge Worcestershire
HOUSEHOLD PRICE WALTER M 1895 16 Stourbridge Worcestershire


Lynnette

Lynnette Report 14 Jun 2010 13:34

Thankyou for the 1911 look up,
Could I ask what's the address they were living at ?

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 14 Jun 2010 13:34

What are you looking to search by address please Lynnette?

If you have access to the 1911 census, you will be able to see the full details of the family and address of the George Rock I have posted and also that of Rose Price to check her father's occupation as well as the address. Both those census records are for Halesowen.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 14 Jun 2010 13:42

1901

Name: Rose Price
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1893
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: George
Gender: Female
Where born: Halesowen, Worcestershire, England

Civil parish: Halesowen
Ecclesiastical parish: Halesowen St John the Baptist
Town: Halesowen
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England

Street Address: Islington Row <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Stourbridge
Sub-registration district: Halesowen
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 198
Household Members: Name Age
George Price 37 Married, Bolt Maker
Richard Hughes 17 Stepson, Steam hammer Driver b. Birmingham
Annie Price 11 Daughter
Rose Price 8 Daughter
Walter Price 6 Son
Gerald Price 4 Son
Samuel Jones 23 Boarder
Lavinia Jones 16 Boarder

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 2750; Folio: 21; Page: 34.



1891


Name: George Price
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1866
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Marry
Gender: Male
Where born: Halesowen, Worcestershire, England

Civil parish: Halesowen
Ecclesiastical parish: Halesowen
Town: Halesowen
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England

Street Address: Islington Row<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Stourbridge
Sub-registration district: Halesowen
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George Price 25
Marry Price 25
Annie Price 9/12


Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 2301; Folio 72; Page 24; GSU roll: 6097411.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 14 Jun 2010 13:47

????

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Sep 1889 (>99%)
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Price George Stourbridge 6c 194
PURSLOW Mary Alice Stourbridge 6c 194


Lynnette

Lynnette Report 14 Jun 2010 13:50

I don't have access to the 1911 census but wondered as both families had lived on islington halesowen at the time of the marriage I didn't know if it would be easier to search by address as there are so many George Rocks' and George prices'.Plus I couldn't find Rosannah living in halesowen in the 1901 census.I didn't know if it was possible to search by address.

Dea

Dea Report 14 Jun 2010 13:56

The addresses on 1911 census (already posted) exactly match those on wedding cert!!

Dea x

P.S. - With George + his sister Annie on 1911 is neice Lily, aged 5 (daughter of Annie) born Halesowen.

Dea x