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I cannot understand who Eliza is?? Where did she appear from?

Well said Christine,

Nite nite!!

Dea Xxx

All of these nice people give of their time and knowledge freely to help others.

If the world could take this view it would be a far, far nicer place to live.

Thank you all again!!

Christine

Christine,

Apologies accepted on behalf of everyone concerned. (I am sure they won't mind me doing that??)

It's SO easy to get carried away and forget to thank all the people who have helped.

Dea Xxx

Indeed, again, having read through yes many others to acknowledge, very remiss of me and I apologise.
Thank YOU all very very much I have been overwhelmed with all of the help you have provided me.

There are several other people you might like to acknowledge here ??

Please read through your thread and the responses given

maybe that marriage of Ellen was incorrect ?




Name: Henry FOWLES
Date of departure: 19 August 1911
Port of departure: London
Passenger destination port: Fremantle, Australia
Passenger destination: Fremantle, Australia

Date of Birth: 1865 (calculated from age)
Age: 46
Marital status: Married
Sex: Male
Occupation: Gardiner
Passenger recorded on: Page 5 of 9





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The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: -

Ellen FOWLES Page 5 of 9 View transcript
Jane FOWLES Page 5 of 9 View transcript



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Ship:
Official Number:
Master's name:
Steamship Line:
Where bound:
Square feet:
Registered tonnage:
Passengers on voyage:
PAPANUI
108562
Thos Moore
The Auskalian Shipping Co Ld
Australia
10717
4919
365

UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Name: Mr Hy Fowles
Birth Date: abt 1865
Age: 51
Port of Departure: Brisbane, Australia
Arrival Date: 16 Jun 1916
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Sydney, Melbourne, Adelaide, Fremantle, Plymouth
Ship Name: Omrah
Search Ship Database: View the 'Omrah' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Orient Steam Navigation Company Ltd
Official Number: 108782


Source Citation: Class: BT26; Piece: 630; Item: 108




UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Name: Mrs Hane Fowles (Jane on original)
Birth Date: abt 1867
Age: 49
Port of Departure: Brisbane, Australia
Arrival Date: 16 Jun 1916
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Sydney, Melbourne, Adelaide, Fremantle, Plymouth
Ship Name: Omrah
Search Ship Database: View the 'Omrah' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Orient Steam Navigation Company Ltd
Official Number: 108782



Source Citation: Class: BT26; Piece: 630; Item: 108

1861 census

Name Elijah Payne
Age 32
Estimated Year of Birth 1829
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation Sawyer
Address Jersey Hill
District Warminster, Longbridge-Deverill
Parish Longbridge Deverill
Administrative County Wiltshire
Birth Place Longbridge Deverill
Birth County Wiltshire
in house
elijah head 32
mary a wife 28
ellen 8
elizabeth 5
oliver 3
elijah 8 months
RG 9 / 1305


On same census next door is

jabez payne head 35
harriet wife 31
william son 8
abigail edwards neice 15
mahala payne lodger 58


And

david payne head 60
leah wife 59
levi son 24


1871 census

Name Elijah Payne
Age 43
Estimated Year of Birth 1828
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation
Address Clay Street
District Warminster, Longbridge Deverill
Parish Longbridge Deverill
Administrative County Wiltshire
Birth Place Wiltshire
Birth County Wiltshire
in house
elijah head 43 married
elizabeth daughter 15
mary daughter 7
RG 10 / 1935



1881 census

Name Elijah Payne
Age 52
Estimated Year of Birth 1829
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation Sawyer
Address Clay Street
District Warminster, Longbridge-Deverill
Parish Longbridge-Deverill
Administrative County Wiltshire
Birth Place Crockerton
Birth County Wiltshire
in house
elijah head 52 widower
RG 11 / 2057

Births of this marriage found and PM'd to Christine in view of time line

possibly


England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
Name: Ellen Fowles
Year of Registration: 1911
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Bristol
County: Avon, Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 397



Spouse - Ernest W Gamlin

Looks good! Well done,Choccy!!!

Maureen

possible death -


England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
Name: Jane Fowles
Death Registration Month/Year: 1950
Age at death (estimated): 84
Registration district: Bristol
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 7b
Page: 167

1891 England Census
Name: Jane Fowles
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1867
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Henry
Gender: Female
Where born: Warminster, Wiltshire, England

Civil parish: St Philip and St Jacob
Ecclesiastical parish: St Gabriel
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Barton Regis
Sub-registration district: St Philip
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Fowles 24
Jane Fowles 24
Ellen Fowles 11 ????




Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 1981; Folio 15; Page 23; GSU roll: 6097091.






1901 England Census
Name: Jane Fowles
Age: 34
Estimated birth year: abt 1867
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Henry
Gender: Female
Where born: Longbridge Deverill, Wiltshire, England

Civil parish: Bristol
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Bristol
Sub-registration district: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 26
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Fowles 34
Jane Fowles 34
Ellen Fowles 10
Amy Pavey 26




Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 2389; Folio: 138; Page: 6.

Marriages Mar 1889 (>99%)
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Fowles Henry Bath 5c 977
Payne Jane Bath 5c 977





1911 census -


FOWLES, Henry Head Married
23 years M 46 1865 Greengrocer Warminster Wilts VIEW
FOWLES, Jane Wife F 44 1867 Crockerton Wilts VIEW
FOWLES, Ellen Daughter Single F 21 1890 Dressmaker Bristol VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
14988 Reference:
RG14PN14988 RD319 SD5 ED42 SN8

Registration District:
Bristol Sub District:
St George Enumeration District:
42 Parish:
Bristol

Address:
44 Chelsea Road Easton Bristol County:
Gloucestershire

Hi census for her aunt and uncle

1901 census

Address 116 Crockerton
Civil Parish L B Deverill
Rural District Warminster
Town or Village or Hamlet Crockerton
Ecclesiastical Parish L B Deverill With Monkton Devl & Crockerton
Parliamentary Borough or Division Western On Westbury
County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District
Administrative County Wiltshire
Householder 1
Name Harriet Payne
Relation to Head of Family Wife
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 70
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Wilts Crockerton
Language
Infirmity
Householder 2
Name Jabez Payne
Relation to Head of Family Head
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 74
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Retired Gen Agricultural Labourer
Employment Status
Where Born Wilts Crockerton
Language
Infirmity


1891 census

Name Jabez Payne
Age 64
Estimated Year of Birth 1827
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation Agricultural Labourer
Address 116, Clay Street
District Warminster, Longbridge Deverill
Parish Longbridge Deverill
Administrative County Wiltshire
Birth Place Crockerton, Longbridge Deverill
Birth County Wiltshire
IN HOUSE
jabeza head 64
harriet wife 60
RG 12 / 1610



1881 census

Name Jabez Payne
Age 54
Estimated Year of Birth 1827
Relationship to Head of Household Patient
Occupation Farm Laborer Thatcher
Address Upper Borough Walls
District Bath, Walcot
Parish Bath St Peter and St Paul
Administrative County Somersetshire
Birth Place Crokerton
Birth County Wiltshire
RG 11 / 2436

Just checking if there is only the one birth record:

Births Mar 1867 (>99%)
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PAYNE Jane Warminster 5a 147


Found an Eliza:

Births Jun 1866 (>99%)
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PAYNE Eliza A Warminster 5a 153



Jill

Uncle in same Hospital??
1881 Ancestry
Name: Jabez Payne
Age: 54
Estimated birth year: abt 1827
Relation: Patient
Gender: Male
Where born: Crokerton, Wiltshire, England
Civil parish: Bath St Peter and St Paul
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Street Address: "Mineral Water Hospital" Upper Borough Walls
Condition as to marriage: Married
Occupation: Farm Laborer Thatcher
Registration district: Bath
Sub-registration district: Walcot

Maureen

1881 - Aunty Harriet - with a 14 year old niece called Eliza ... ??

Harriet Payne
Age: 50
Estimated birth year: abt 1831
Relation: Head
Mother's Name: Mahala
Gender: Female
Where born: Crockerton, Wiltshire, England

Civil parish: Longbridge Deverill
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England

Street Address: Clay Street
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Silk Throwster

Registration district: Warminster
Sub-registration district: Longbridge Deverill
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Harriet Payne 50
Eliza Payne 14
Mahala Payne 77


Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 2057; Folio: 38; Page: 8; GSU roll: 1341496.

1881

Elijah PAYNE Head W Male 52 Crockerton, Wiltshire, England Sawyer


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Source Information:
Dwelling Clay Street
Census Place Lonbridge Deverill, Wiltshire, England
Family History Library Film 1341496
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 2057 / 43
Page Number 18