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Deborah Kate Matthews, Birmingham, late 1800s/1911

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Neil

Neil Report 9 Nov 2008 21:05

Looking for more information on my maternal greatgrandmother.

My understanding is that she was probably named Deborah Kate Matthews - although 'Kate' seems to be what she was called by most people.

In 1905 she married Charles (Emmanuel) Brookes. When he died around 1911 she probably remarried at least twice before she became known as Kate Whitehouse.

She had three maybe four children: Albert Brookes, Ted Millworth(?), and Florence.

She died around 1962 having lived in Birmingham all her life.

Ericthered

Ericthered Report 9 Nov 2008 21:10

Her father's name will be on her marriage certs............

What name did she marry under in 1905?

Ericthered

Ericthered Report 9 Nov 2008 21:13

Her correct name was Deborah Kate.............

Marriages Dec 1905 (>99%)

BROOKES Charles Emmanuel Birmingham 6d
MATTHEWS Deborah Kate Birmingham 6d 103


I'll leave you to find her birth on freebmd..........

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/

Samspade

Samspade Report 9 Nov 2008 21:15

this may be her second marriage

Marriages Sep 1912
Brookes Deborah K Millward Aston 6d 501
Millward Henry Brookes Aston 6d 501

Ericthered

Ericthered Report 9 Nov 2008 21:15

Deaths Sep 1911 (>99%)

Brookes Charles E 47 Aston 6d 288

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 9 Nov 2008 21:21

What about this?

Marriages Jun 1899
Grimmett James George Aston 6d 686
>>>Matthews Benjamin James Aston 6d 686
>>>Wale Deborah Kate Aston 6d 686
Wilks Emma Jane Aston 6d 686

Ericthered

Ericthered Report 9 Nov 2008 21:26

Well spotted Ozi..............

This birth ties in with it

Births Sep 1918 (96%)
Millward Arthur E Wale Birmingham 6d 543

So she was WALE at birth..............

Ericthered

Ericthered Report 9 Nov 2008 21:27

Births Jun 1878 (>99%)
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WALE Deborah Aston 6d 265

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 9 Nov 2008 21:37

1901 England Census
Name: Kate Matthews
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Benjamin
Gender: Female
Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

Civil Parish: Yardley
Ecclesiastical parish: Hay Mills St Cyprian and Yardley
Town: Hay Mills
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England

Street address: Red Hill Terrace, Arthur Rd

Occupation:

Registration district: Solihull
Sub registration district: Solihull
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 145
Household Members: Name Age
Benjamin Matthews 23 - iron sandblaster; Banbury, Oxon
Kate Matthews 23


Ozibird

Ozibird Report 9 Nov 2008 21:45

Deaths Mar 1903
Matthews Benjamin James 25 Aston 6d 183

Ericthered

Ericthered Report 9 Nov 2008 21:49

1881...........( I know I shouldn't!)

Name: Kate Wale
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Charles
Mother's Name: Emma
Gender: Female
Where born: Birmm, Warwickshire, England

Civil Parish: Aston
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street address: 10 Richmond Terr

Registration district: Aston
Sub registration district: Deritend
ED, institution, or vessel: 68
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age

George Dunkley 17
William Harris 20
Charles Wale 35 b. Stoneleigh
Emma Wale 30 b. Brinklow
Kate Wale 3
William Wale

Ericthered

Ericthered Report 9 Nov 2008 22:35

?

Timothy

Timothy Report 30 Mar 2011 22:22

Hi there, i see you were looking into your great grandmother Deborah Kate Wale - she was married to my Great x 3 Grandfather Charles Emanuel Brookes with whom she had children. Do you have any information on Charles as I am stuck?

Thanks, Adrian

Timothy

Timothy Report 30 Mar 2011 22:23

Ps She had another child with Charles called Walter born 1911

Flick

Flick Report 30 Mar 2011 23:14

As Neil didn't have the decency to acknowledge the help given to him in 2008........hardly surprising, I suppose, as he didn't even bother to say 'please'..........I doubt that he will see your message............

If you want help with your research, you'd be better off starting a thread of your own............

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 2 Apr 2011 22:28

As you haven't started another thread, I'll happily continue with this one so that info isn't duplicated.

????
Births Dec 1863
BROOKES Charles Emmanuel Aston 6d 249

Deaths Sep 1911
Brookes Charles E 47 Aston 6d 288

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 2 Apr 2011 22:31

Adrian, try contacting Neil by clicking on his name.
Jan

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 2 Apr 2011 22:33

1911?

BROOKES, Charles Head Married M 47 1864 Burnisher Brass Beadstead Mounts Warwickshire Bham VIEW
BROOKES, Kate Wife Married
6 years F 34 1877 VIEW
BROOKES, Caroline Daughter Single F 22 1889 Press Worker Brass Cutter And Warwickshire Bham VIEW
BROOKES, Charles Son Single M 20 1891 Fitter And Quembler Iron Railway Carriage Work Warwickshire Bham VIEW
BROOKES, William Son Single M 18 1893 Driller Iron Railway Carriage Work Warwickshire Bham VIEW
BROOKES, Harold Son Single M 16 1895 Straightening Brass Canal Tubes Warwickshire Bham VIEW
BROOKES, Harry Son M 14 1897 Filer Silver Spoons And Forks Warwickshire Bham VIEW
BROOKES, Elsie Daughter F 9 1902 Warwickshire Bham VIEW
BROOKES, Florrie Daughter F 3 1908 Warwickshire Bham VIEW
BROOKES, Albert Son M 2 1909 Warwickshire Bham VIEW
BROOKES, Walter Son M 0 (5 MONTHS) 1911 Warwickshire Bham VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
18171 Reference:
RG14PN18171 RG78PN1099 RD385 SD1 ED24 SN125

Registration District:
Aston Sub District:
Deritend Enumeration District:
24 Parish:
Aston

Address:
202 Watery Lane Small Heath County:
Warwickshire

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 2 Apr 2011 22:41

And this is probably Walter.


Births Dec 1910
BROOKES Walter L Aston 6d 206

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 2 Apr 2011 22:44

And Florrie??????

Births Sep 1907
BROOKES Florence Lilian Aston 6d 269