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Trying to find maiden name!

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Elizabeth

Elizabeth Report 3 Feb 2010 13:44

Hi,

I need to find the maiden name of a realtive Helen. She married Robert Knight. I dont know when but it was in London around the early 1890's I would think.

Thanks xxxx

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 3 Feb 2010 13:47

poss connection - 1881

Robert KNIGHT Head M Male 39 Westminster, Middlesex, England Solicitors Managing Clerk
Eliza KNIGHT Wife M Female 38 Westminster, Middlesex, England
Sarah KNIGHT Mother W Female 78 Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England Annuitant
Ernest G. KNIGHT Son U Male 8 Hackney, Middlesex, England Scholar
Robert KNIGHT Son U Male 6 Old Street, Middlesex, England Scholar
Mary E. KNIGHT Daur U Female 4 Westminster, Middlesex, England Scholar
Thomas J. KNIGHT Son U Male 1 Westminster, Middlesex, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling 49 Sandal St
Census Place West Ham, Essex, England
Family History Library Film 1341411
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 1718 / 83
Page Number 52

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 3 Feb 2010 13:48

Could it be this one, earlier than you thought?

Marriages Dec 1885 (>99%)
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Bryant Margaret Louisa Paddington 1a 4
***Henson Helen Elizabeth Paddington 1a 4
Hopkins Henry Paddington 1a 4
***KNIGHT Robert Henry Paddington 1a 4

Here's the details of that one:

Name: Robert Henry Knight
Age: 37
Estimated birth year: abt 1848
Spouse Name: Helen Elizabeth Henson
Spouse Age: 35
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 8 Nov 1885
Parish: St Matthew, Bayswater
County: Middlesex
Borough: Westminster
Father Name: Edward Sackville Knight
Spouse Father Name: Thomas Henson


SharoninGreece

SharoninGreece Report 3 Feb 2010 13:50

Name: Robert Henry Knight
Age: 37
Estimated birth year: abt 1848
Spouse Name: Helen Elizabeth Henson
Spouse Age: 35
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 8 Nov 1885
Parish: St Matthew, Bayswater
County: Middlesex
Borough: Westminster
Father Name: Edward Sackville Knight
Spouse Father Name: Thomas Henson

Andrew

Andrew Report 3 Feb 2010 13:51

There is this one, a little earlier. Any idea of occupations or any children?

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Robert Henry Knight
Name: Robert Henry Knight
Age: 37
Estimated birth year: abt 1848
Spouse Name: Helen Elizabeth Henson
Spouse Age: 35
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 8 Nov 1885
Parish: St Matthew, Bayswater
County: Middlesex
Borough: Westminster
Father Name: Edward Sackville Knight
Spouse Father Name: Thomas Henson



Andy

Elizabeth

Elizabeth Report 3 Feb 2010 13:53

The only other thing I know is Robert was born in about 1859 and their first child was born in 1893.

Thanks for all the replys xx

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 3 Feb 2010 13:55

Does the first child have a name please?

1901 England Census about Robert Knight
Name: Robert Knight
Age: 42
Estimated birth year: abt 1859
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Helen
Gender: Male
Where born: Peckham, London, England
Civil parish: Camberwell
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints Blenheim Grove
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Camberwell
Sub-registration district: Peckham
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 113
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Knight 42
Helen Knight 40
Eleanor Knight 8
Robert R Knight 6
Annie Knight 4
Clarence Knight 2

Elizabeth

Elizabeth Report 3 Feb 2010 13:57

Elenor, she was born in London. The whole family lived on Chomert Road in Camberwell/Peckham in London.

Thansk xx

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 3 Feb 2010 13:57

This one was born 1858 but the marriage is a little early if they didn't have their first child untl 1893.

Name: Robert James Knight
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1858
Spouse Name: Ellen Smith
Spouse Age: 28
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 5 Oct 1884
Parish: St Leonard Shoreditch
County: London
Borough: Hackney
Father Name: William Knight
Spouse Father Name: Zachariah Smith

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 3 Feb 2010 14:01

1901 census
62 Choumert Rd., Camberwell, London
Robert Knight, head, 42, master baker
Helen, wife, 40
Eleanor, dau, 8
Robert R., son, 6
Annie, dau, 4
Clarence, son, 2
All born Peckham, London.

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 3 Feb 2010 14:02

He's a master Baker on 1901

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 3 Feb 2010 14:05

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Eleanor Elizabeth Knight
Name: Eleanor Elizabeth Knight
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 28 Aug 1892
Father's Name: Robert Charles Knight
Mother's Name: Helen Knight
Parish: St Chrysostom, Peckham
Borough: Southwark
County: Middlesex

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 3 Feb 2010 14:07

Still single in 1891.
1891 census
23 Coumert Rd., Camberwell, London
Robert Knight, head, 66, baker, born Devon, Broadwater
Elizabeth, wife, 63, born Somerset, Bath
***Robert C., son, 32, baker's assistant, born Peckham
Plus a servant.

Elizabeth

Elizabeth Report 3 Feb 2010 14:19

I'll keep checking! I have heard family whispers that she is of Spanish decent but I have no idea how true that is!

Thanks for all the info though chaps!

x

Elizabeth

Elizabeth Report 3 Feb 2010 14:24

Got it! Her name was Helen Mighell, she and Robert married towards the end of 1891!

:-) Thanks for all the help chaps!

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 3 Feb 2010 14:29

he s missing on the other half !Found him the top half of the last number 8 is missing!

Name: Helen Mighell
Year of Registration: 1891
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Camberwell
County: Greater London, London, Surrey
Volume: 1d
Page: 1498 (click to see others on pag

ChristineinPortugal

ChristineinPortugal Report 3 Feb 2010 14:33

Marriages Sep 1891 (>99%)
Mighell Helen Camberwell 1d 1498
Warden Matilda Jane Camberwell 1d 1498
Watts John Minto Camberwell 1d 1498

The page number for Robert has been mistranscribed

Marriages Sep 1891 (>99%)
Knight Robert Charles Camberwell 1d 1493

Christine

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 3 Feb 2010 14:37

1891 England Census about Helen Mighell
Name: Helen Mighell
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1861
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Mingaye
Mother's Name: Eleanor
Gender: Female
Where born: Peckham, Surrey, England
Civil parish: Camberwell
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Town: Peckham
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image
Registration district: Camberwell
Sub-registration district: Peckham
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Mingaye Mighell 57
Eleanor Mighell 62
Edwin Mighell 31
Helen Mighell 30
Joseph Mighell 25
Annie M Mighell 22
Harry J Burt 21
Amy G Budd 24
Edmund Webb 20
Fanny George 22

Name: Mingaye Farmer Lumsden Mighell
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1833
Christening Date: 18 Dec 1833
Christening Place: Brighton, Sussex, England
Father's Name: William Mighell
Mother's Name: Elizabeth

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 3 Feb 2010 14:50

1891 census
34 Rye Lane, Camberwell, London
Mingaze? Mighell, head, 57, grocer, born Sussex, Brighton
Eleanor, wife, 62, grocer's assistant, born Sussex, Worthing
Edwin, son, 31, grocer's assistant, born Peckham
Helen, dau, 30, milliner dress, born "
Joseph, son, 25, grocer's assistant, born "
Annie M., dau, 22, grocer's clerk. born "
Plus a boarder, a visitor, an assistant and a servant.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 3 Feb 2010 14:53

What a handle! From BVRI:

MIGHELL, Mingaye Farmer Lumsden Christening
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 18 Dec 1833 Recorded in: Brighton, Sussex, England
Collection: St Nicholas
Father: William MIGHELL
Mother: Elizabeth
Source: FHL Film 1067108 Dates: 1833 - 1833