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14 Aug 2009 17:54 |
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Can anyone shed any light!!!!!
Looking for the birth place/parents of Frederick Gatesman born c1777.
He married Jane Moore 1803 in Hampshire
He died before the 1851 census and the 1841 census has him of not being born in hampshire.
My only clue is that I have been told by people who have been unsuccessfully researching him was that he was a Marine in 1803
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Stephen
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14 Aug 2009 19:45 |
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nudge
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14 Aug 2009 19:46 |
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FREDERIC GATESMAN Pedigree
Male Family
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
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Marriages:
Spouse: JANE MOORE Family
Marriage: 16 AUG 1803 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth, Hampshire, England
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Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.
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14 Aug 2009 19:47 |
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1881 - for reference
Elizabeth E. GATESMAN Wife (Head) M Female 31 Eling, Hampshire, England Soldiers Wife
Eliza W. GATESMAN Daur Female 5 Hampshire, England Scholar
Frederick J. GATESMAN Son Male 1 Netley, Hampshire, England
George W. GATESMAN Son Male 2 Netley, Hampshire, England
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Source Information:
Census Place Hound, Hampshire, England
Family History Library Film 1341298
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 1216 / 54
Page Number 22
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14 Aug 2009 19:48 |
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GEORGE GATESMAN Pedigree
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 18 JAN 1809 Holy Trinity, Gosport, Hampshire, England
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Father: FREDERICK GATESMAN Family
Mother: JANE
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Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
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Stephen
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14 Aug 2009 19:53 |
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thanks Ann....trying to figure out who that Elizabeth Gateman is as she was born c1850.......with her calling her son Frederick there must be a link somewhere!
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AnnCardiff
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14 Aug 2009 20:09 |
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well she's not down as a widow so perhaps husband was away the day of the census
I'm on the free Mormon LDS site trying different forenames for Gatesmen men!!!
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14 Aug 2009 20:13 |
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found another child!!!
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JANE ANN GATESMAN Pedigree
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 01 AUG 1810 Holy Trinity, Gosport, Hampshire, England
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Father: FREDERICK GATESMAN Family
Mother: JANE
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Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
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14 Aug 2009 20:13 |
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JANE ANN GATESMAN Pedigree
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Spouse: THOMAS MOORE Family
Marriage: 14 JUN 1846 Alverstoke, Hampshire, England
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Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.
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14 Aug 2009 20:15 |
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1881
Joseph HILL Head W Male 67 Dunbar, Scotland Superannuated Custom Officer
Samuel John HILL Son U Male 35 Southampton Shop Porter
James GATESMAN Son In Law Boarder M Male 28 Southampton Printer X1/1
Julia GATESMAN Daur M Female 30 Southampton Keeper Of House
Ena GATESMAN Grand Daur Female 1 Southampton
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Source Information:
Dwelling 4 West Cottages
Census Place Millbrook, Hampshire, England
Family History Library Film 1341299
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 1221 / 14
Page Number 21
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Stephen
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14 Aug 2009 20:36 |
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strange theres another Gatesman/Moore marriage!
Just wish I could find more about Frederick c1777!!!! or his wife Jane Moore
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AnnCardiff
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14 Aug 2009 20:40 |
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didn't clock that - keep it in the family eh!!!!
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Stephen
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14 Aug 2009 20:43 |
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LOL - it looks that way!
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14 Aug 2009 20:57 |
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does anyone know if there is a place I can check marine records as I know he was one in 1803
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AnnCardiff
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14 Aug 2009 21:01 |
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would this have been Royal Marines?
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Mary
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14 Aug 2009 21:04 |
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Iv'e counted about 12-14 children to a Frederick and jane maybe there were many died at birth.
Interesting thing is they married 1803 and 1st child born about 1809 so maybe he was away at sea for the first 6 years of their marriege.
I can see only 3 sons George 1809,John frederick 1828 and george Robert Doling or boling Gatesman 1826 he married Eliza bucksley in 1849 and had William Alfred Gatesman 1868.
Can't find anything on Frederick 1777,as yet
Maryb
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14 Aug 2009 21:04 |
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Stephen
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14 Aug 2009 21:05 |
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sorry Ann. I dont know........I can only assume so
when I googled Frederick Gatesman and Jane Moore Hampshire there was someone who was looking for him back in 2000 they said he was a marine. Alas, there wasnt an email to contact the poster!
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Mary
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14 Aug 2009 21:22 |
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Elizabeth Edsall Gatesman married to George frederick Gatesman ,
1891 he was Lance Sargeant Medical Staff Corps,he was born 1850 to George Robert Gatesman and Elize nee Bucksley.
Maryb
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was plain ann now annielaurie
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14 Aug 2009 21:35 |
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His records would be at the Narional Archives if they have survived. Not online though - you would have to go there or get someone to go for you and it's not a simple search! There is a partial index online and there's a George Gatesman, born Hampshire 1825 ish who was in the Royal Marines. Could this be some relation?
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