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Trying to find out about surname

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Ellen

Ellen Report 22 Aug 2008 19:44

Has anyone else come across these surnames? It doesn't seem to exist on any of the main sites that I have tried. These are the surnames that the above lady had on her marriage certificate, although she appears to also go by the surname SMITH.

Ellen

Ellen Report 22 Aug 2008 19:58

Hello Hippie,the Surnames I am trying to find are GYELS or LOCKEGYELS. Emily goes by this name on her marriage certficate but SMITH features as her surname as well. Thank you

sablon

sablon Report 22 Aug 2008 20:04

what years are you talking about

Ellen

Ellen Report 23 Aug 2008 12:17

The year of Emily's birth is around 1848.

Potty

Potty Report 23 Aug 2008 12:41

Emily's marriage is listed twice on freebmd, as Emily Letitia L Gyels and Emily Latitia Lockegyels - looks as if the the person compiling the index couldn't decide if Locke was a separate name or part of her surname.

There are some Gyels on Ancestry - mostly early parish records.

I would think it should be Gyles mis-spelt.

Where and how is the Smith mentioned.

Potty

Potty Report 23 Aug 2008 12:47

Is this her in 1881:
Name: Emily Letitia Lloyd
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William Henry
Gender: Female
Where born: Bendan, Oxfordshire, England

Civil Parish: Llangattock Vibon Avel
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales

Street address: Duffryn
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education: View Image
Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Farmer Wife

Registration district: Monmouth
Sub registration district: Dingestow
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Jones 17
Emily Letitia Lloyd 32
Philip Edgar Lloyd 1
Phillip Lloyd 65
William Henry Lloyd 32
Elizabeth Watkins 16
Harriet Watkins 14

Potty

Potty Report 23 Aug 2008 12:52

What about this in 1871 - a sailor's wife - no husband with her:
Emily L Locke
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Benson, Oxfordshire, England
Civil Parish: Portsea
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Portsea Island
Sub registration district: Kingston
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Household schedule number: 106
Household Members: Name Age
Emily L Locke 23

Potty

Potty Report 23 Aug 2008 12:54

1861 - does father's name tie in with the marriage cert?
Emily Smith
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Female
Where born: Benson, Oxfordshire, England

Civil Parish: Benson
Ecclesiastical parish: Oxford
County/Island: Oxfordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Wallingford
Sub registration district: Wallingford
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 6
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Smith 46
Emily Smith 13
George I Smith 17
John Smith 51

Potty

Potty Report 23 Aug 2008 13:17

Think this is could be her birth - the page number is not clear on the image but I think it should be 273:
Births Mar 1848 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

SMITH Emily Wallingford 6 373

Ellen

Ellen Report 23 Aug 2008 15:15

Thank you Potty. You have been busy. This was most intriging and has left me something to think about.

A sailor's wife - no husband with her:
Emily L Locke
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Benson, Oxfordshire, England
Civil Parish: Portsea
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Street address:

Did she then marry again, William Henry LLoyd, who is the husband of the Emily I am researching.

Iv'e had a quick look on Freebmd but not found a marriage for a Locke/Lockgiles to an Emily Smith or Giles but didn't come up with any possibilities.

I am doing this on behalf of an elderly lady in Australia so I'm not that sure of the facts. She is deffienely Emily Letitia. On her son George William Lloyd's birth certificate, she is Lockgiles but on his marriage certificate in NSW she is listed as SMITH.

Thank you Ellen

Potty

Potty Report 23 Aug 2008 16:04

The only birth for an Emily Letitia is in Basingstoke but I don't think that is yours. Maybe the Letitia was added at Baptism?

I cannot find a Lock(e) marriage either - have tried every combination I can think of.

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 23 Aug 2008 16:36

where exactly did Emily & William marry?

Ellen

Ellen Report 23 Aug 2008 17:07

Emily and William married in Monmouthshire, possibly Llangattock Vibon Avel or St Maughans, 1879. Havn't got the marriage certificate to know who Emily's father is.

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 23 Aug 2008 17:24

I was asking the exact marriage date as there is a very good site for monmouthshire families
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~monfamilies/
Llangattock baptisms-
25 Mar 1880 Phillip Edgar so of Wm Henry and Emily Letitia Lloyd

but can't find a marriage in Llangattock V A and St Maughans marriage transcrip[t only at present go up to 1812

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 23 Aug 2008 17:35

also
14 Aug 1881 - Cath Frances Elizth lloyd living at Duffin
8 Apr 1883 - Henry John
15 Feb 1885 Geo Wm
2 Dec 1888 - Jas Allan - now living at Penylan

Ellen

Ellen Report 23 Aug 2008 17:46

Thank you Lancashire Ann for the dates and your had work.. The website looks very good when you know what your looking for. I don't know where else they might have been married

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 23 Aug 2008 17:54

the name of the church will be on the marriage certificate

Ellen

Ellen Report 23 Aug 2008 17:58

Unfortunately thats the one thing I don't have. I shall suggest the purchase of this to the lady I am helping.

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 23 Aug 2008 18:04

sorry - I thought you said in your initial post that you got Emily's surname from the marriage certificate.
I am sure a copy would help you resolve the mystery

Ellen

Ellen Report 23 Aug 2008 19:40

The Smith part came on her son's marriage certificate. Very confusing I must admit.