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Sarah

Sarah Report 29 Mar 2010 07:21

Looking for first name of Patrick Deehey's father.

His mother was Freda Bernhardt (sometimes listed as Burnard).
She married 1st Stanley Clayton in Hendon in 1929 (one child Francis Clayton b. 1930) m. (3rd?) Walter Walland in 1948 possibly in Hammersmith since daughter born there 2 years later (one child Valerie Walland b. 1950)

Patrick was the only one of the 3 children who was raised by his grandmother Alice (Miles/De Fraine/Bernhardt/Blaxall/Clayton) Not sure she married his father (Deehee--Deehey---Deehy) as I cannot find a marriage record for them.

Thanks Sarah

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When was Patrick born? Have you found his birth cert?

Rose

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England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005
about Walter G Walland
Name: Walter G Walland
Spouse Surname: Clayton Or Burnard
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1948
Registration district: Hammersmith
Registration county (inferred): London
Volume Number: 5c
Page Number: 1698
Find Spouse: Freda E A Burnard

Rose

Sarah

Sarah Report 29 Mar 2010 08:09

Hey Rose

No I don't have the Birth cert. I have tried locating his information on FreeBMD....but not sure how his last name is spelled.....I have tried just putting his first name and his mom's surname (tried all spellings Bernhardt/Bernard/Barnard/Burnard) as well as both her married names Clayton and Walland. But no luck.

Her son Francis Clayton was born in Marylebone in 1930 and her daughter Valerie Walland in Hammersmith in 1950....so I assumed he was born in that general area sometime between those 2 dates. The grandmother (Alice Miles Clayton) who raised him lived in Kensington in 1928, but was in Harrow when she died in 1954.

I appreciate your help
Sarah

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How do you know about him? Any idea if he married or where he could be?

Rose

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This is the only thing I can come up with:

England & Wales, Birth Index: 1916-2005
about Patrick M Breagan
Name: Patrick M Breagan
Mother's Maiden Surname: Bernard
Date of Registration: Apr May Jun 1938
Registration district: Hammersmith
Registration county: Greater London
Volume Number: 1a
Page Number: 400


Rose

Sarah

Sarah Report 29 Mar 2010 08:43

Patrick is a cousin of a good friend of mine. I've been helping her research her family. They were both raised by thier grandmother.

This poor woman married 4 times ......raised 6 kids of her own....possibly some of her 7 stepsons (her last husband's kids) and 5 of her grandkids.

***Patrick married (don't know when, where or whom)
***did very well financially I am told.
***He had at least 1 son (don't know his name)
*** is deceased.

But my friend was born in 1938 and they were about the same age I think.

I too saw earlier that birth record you gave it's the closest I've found to the information my friend has given me. Will have to talk to her and see if she knows anything else and get back with you.

Thanks again for your help.
Sarah

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 29 Mar 2010 10:20

Does she know when he died because the one I listed above is dead?

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Patrick Michael Breagan
Name: Patrick Michael Breagan
Birth Date: 29 Apr 1938
Death Registration Month/Year: Jun 2000
Age at death (estimated): 62
Registration district: Crawley
Inferred County: West Sussex
Register number: B50A
District and Subdistrict: 7801B
Entry number: 190

There's a marriage for him but I don't see any children.


Rose

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 29 Mar 2010 10:24

Another death but I don't see the birth:

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Thomas Patrick Deehy
Name: Thomas Patrick Deehy
Birth Date: 20 Feb 1938
Death Registration Month/Year: Oct 1992
Age at death (estimated): 54
Registration district: Chiltern and South Bucks
Inferred County: Buckinghamshire
Volume: 19
Page: 1093


Rose

Sarah

Sarah Report 29 Mar 2010 20:05

I talked to my friend briefly earlier (she was expecting a call from dr) but she said he married a woman named Gloria (maiden unk) and they had 3 kids---a least one was a boy. She said he committed suicide after learning something about his past ---(don't know what). She also told me his wife moved to France after he died.

My friend said it seemd odd because he had a good life and had done VERY well financially.

Anyway I think the last death record could be him. My friend said she thought they were about the same age and it shows he was born in 1938 and my friend was too. Also Chiltern is only 26 miles from Harrow where he and my friend were raised by their grmother.

I will give her the information and see if it jars any memories.

Thanks for your help
Sarah

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 29 Mar 2010 22:44

Sarah,

So Thomas P Deehy married a Gloria Davison in 1961 so that looks good.

However, this looks to be his birth but the mother's maiden name is Dengate.

England & Wales, Birth Index: 1916-2005
about Thomas P Deehy
Name: Thomas P Deehy
Mother's Maiden Surname: Dengate
Date of Registration: Jan Feb Mar 1938
Registration district: Hammersmith
Registration county: Greater London
Volume Number: 1a
Page Number: 294

Rose

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This looks to be the parents:

England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005
about Ethel F Dengate
Name: Ethel F Dengate
Spouse Surname: Deehy
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1930
Registration district: Kensington
Registration county (inferred): Middlesex
Volume Number: 1a
Page Number: 544
Find Spouse: Thomas A Deehy

They had another child in 1930 called Patrick T.

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 29 Mar 2010 22:55

Can't find a birth or death for Thomas A Deehy or a death or remarriage for an Ethel F Deehy.

There's this for Thomas for 1931 and 1932:

British Phone Books, 1880-1984
about Thomas A Deehy
Name: Thomas A Deehy
Address: 70 Brondesbury Villas N.W.6

Rose

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Let me know if I should PM the details of the 3 children for Gloria and Patrick/Thomas.

Rose

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Gloria must have come back to the UK because she married again.

Rose

Sarah

Sarah Report 30 Mar 2010 03:30

Hey Rose,

Yes please pm me the 3 kids details as well as Gloria's second marriage.

As to Patrick Deehey's mother's name....according to my friend her family is really screwed up......says she's been told so many lies she's not sure what to believe anymore.....

Thanks
Sarah

Sarah

Sarah Report 30 Mar 2010 04:25

Hey Rose,

Can you tell me if there is a Freda Clayton on that British phone directory between 1932 and 1948?

I just realized she married her first husband in 1929----they had the one son Francis S Clayton in 1930 (1st qtr--ie Jan to Mar) and then her husband died in London in 1931. I haven't found a marriage record for her between the Clayton one and the Walland one.....but who knows.

Thanks,
Sarah

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No sign of the Claytons in the old phonebooks.

The Deehy/Dengates had 2 children. One was Patrick Thomas in 1930 and then Thomas Patrick in 1938. Thomas born 1930 ended up in Canada. There's a tree on Ancestry with his details. Thomas A Deehy ,the father, died in 1972. No sign of Ethel.

Could Thomas Patrick's father be one of Alice's sons and that's why she took care of him?

Rose

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Was Stanley Clayton related to Alice's husband, Thomas H P Clayton?

Rose

Sarah

Sarah Report 30 Mar 2010 08:14

Yes Stanley Clayton was Thomas H P Claytons son (was one of Alice miles 7 stepsons)---her daughter Freda's first husband was her step-brother.

We thought the Deehy connection was through a second marriage for Freda--we thought he was Alice's grandson ....but there is no record of such a marriage and no birth record for a Patrick Deehy with mother's surname either Bernhardt/Bernard or Clayton.

All we know for sure is Patrick Deehy was raised by Alice Miles Clayton along with Freda's brother's children (Maxwell Bernhardt's 4 kids)

It's just a brick wall for us.

Sarah