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Dorothy Chandler.

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MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 6 Dec 2009 19:44

Play fair,Sue,
What does the cert say??

Maureen

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 6 Dec 2009 10:14

I have recieved Dorothy's Birth Cert, She is the daughter of her Grandmothers brothers Son! Thank's guy's x

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 26 Nov 2009 13:48

Thanks for the update,Sue. I just re-read the thread and my head is spinning!! Let us know how things progress.

Best,
Maureen

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 26 Nov 2009 11:18

Hi all you Sherlocks! just to let you know i have sent for Dorothy Chandlers Birth
Cert. And just to put anouther spanner in the works, Gertudes Grandmother Sarah Emerys Maiden name is CHANDLER!...To be continued......!

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 25 Nov 2009 18:09

Thankyou all so much for all your hard work, i am sifting my way through, Its funny because yesterday i contacted a member who also had Henry Leale in her tree. I asked if her Henry married Gertrude Emery and she replied, no, her Henry married Gertrude Emily Cheeseman!!! And so i thanked her for her time and thought no more about it. I shall contact her again and get back to you all ...thankyou... sue.

Freewheel

Freewheel Report 25 Nov 2009 12:06

Nudge - in case Susan is still around............

Freewheel

Freewheel Report 24 Nov 2009 15:42

Without a doubt - but at least we did our Sherlock Holmes bit pretty successfully...........!!

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 24 Nov 2009 15:38

Well,it was a fun exercise,but I think the birth cert is going to have to be the way to go.

Maureen

Freewheel

Freewheel Report 24 Nov 2009 15:37

This MIGHT be Emily in 1871 - birthplace is Southampton

Name: Emily Chandler
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1856
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Female
Where born: Souton, St Michaels
Civil parish: Millbrook
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Freemantle
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Registration district: South Stoneham
Sub-registration district: Millbrook
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Household schedule number: 123
Household Members: Name Age
Jane Chandler 43
Thomas Chandler 21
William Chandler 18
Edward Chandler 7
Arthur C Chandler 5
Kate Chandler 16
Emily Chandler 15
Allice Chandler 3
Emma Griffiths 27

Freewheel

Freewheel Report 24 Nov 2009 15:32

That looks very likely - and I don't think she married William. If she did, I can't find anything...............

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 24 Nov 2009 15:27

So was it Emily who started out as a CHANDLER???
Marriages Mar 1881
CHANDLER Emily S. Stoneham 2c 110
CHEESMAN Francis William S. Stoneham 2c 110

The only ones I see on the 1881 are:
Name: Emily Cheesman
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1856
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Fred W.
Gender: Female
Where born: Southampton, Hampshire, England
Civil parish: Millbrook
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Street Address: Balmoral Cottage No 1
Condition as to marriage: Married
Registration district: South Stoneham
Sub-registration district: Millbrook
ED, institution, or vessel: 13

Household Members:
Name Age
Fred W. Cheesman 47
Emily Cheesman 25
Fredk. Oymatt 10
Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 1223; Folio: 68; Page: 11;GSU roll: 1341299.

Deaths Mar 1888 (99%)
CHEESMAN Francis William 50 S Stoneham 2c 45

And then Emily marries (or not) William Emery.

Maureen

Freewheel

Freewheel Report 24 Nov 2009 15:05

Alice and Emma in 1871

Name: Alice Emery
Age: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1867
Relation: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: Botley, Hampshire, England
Civil parish: Millbrook
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Registration district: South Stoneham
Sub-registration district: Millbrook
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Household schedule number: 241
Household Members: Name Age
Emma Leston 33
Alice Emery 4

AND 1881

Name: Alice Emery
Age: 14
Estimated birth year: abt 1867
Relation: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: Botley, Hampshire, England

Civil parish: Millbrook
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street Address: Park Rd 2 Albion Cttges
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: South Stoneham
Sub-registration district: Millbrook
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George Lester 35
Emma Lester 43
Alice Emery 14
Sarah Emery 73 Mother in Law

Marriages Jun 1866 (>99%)
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EMERY Emma S. Stoneham 2c 83
LESTER George S Stoneham 2c 83

Freewheel

Freewheel Report 24 Nov 2009 15:02

Looking at the image of the 1891 Maureen posted, Alice Emery is 'Niece', born Botley. Emily is a Widow, born Southampton

Gertrude's birth - fits with 1901 census

Births Mar 1885 (>99%)
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CHEESMAN Gertrude Emily St Olave Bermondsey 1d 326

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 24 Nov 2009 14:53

Why do I keep getting drawn to this bunch:
1891 Ancestry
Name: Gertrude Chessman
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: abt 1885
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Female
Where born: London, England
Civil parish: Millbrook
Ecclesiastical parish: Shirley
Town: Shirley
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Registration district: South Stoneham
Sub-registration district: Millbrook
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Emma Lester 57
Alice Emery 24
Emily Chessman 39
Gertrude Chessman 6
Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 927; Folio 53; Page 18

Oh right-Gertude Emily CHEESEMAN married Henry LEALE??

Maureen

Freewheel

Freewheel Report 24 Nov 2009 14:39

William in 1891

Name: William Emery
Age: 31
Estimated birth year: abt 1860
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Borley, Hampshire, England

Civil parish: Bishops Waltham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Town: Bishops Waltham
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Droxford
Sub-registration district: Bishops Waltham
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Pearce 47
Ellen Pearce 44
William Pearce 19
Charles Terry 76
William Emery 31 SINGLE - Railway Porter
John Croucher 21


As I suspected, Gertrude is not his daughter - no sign of a birth for Gertrude Emery to fit 1901 census

Freewheel

Freewheel Report 24 Nov 2009 14:36

No marriage for female Emery to Chandler in Hampshire.

Freewheel

Freewheel Report 24 Nov 2009 14:35

The family in 1881 - some girls now!

Name: Alfred Emery
Age: 47
Estimated birth year: abt 1834
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Curdridge, Hampshire, England

Civil parish: Botley
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street Address: Winchester St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Hoop Maker

Registration district: South Stoneham
Sub-registration district: South Stoneham
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Alfred Emery 47
Sarah Emery 43
Harry Emery 17
John Emery 11
Eliza Emery 7
Mary Ann Emery 5
Emily Emery 3
Ellen Emery
William Marsh 49

Freewheel

Freewheel Report 24 Nov 2009 14:31

William in 1861

Name: William Emery
Age: 2
Estimated birth year: abt 1859
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Alfred
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Botley, Hampshire, England

Civil parish: Botley
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: South Stoneham
Sub-registration district: South Stoneham
ED, institution, or vessel: 1b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 54
Household Members: Name Age
Alfred Emery 27
Sarah Emery 23
William Emery 2


AND 1871 - no sisters

Name: William Emery
Age: 12
Estimated birth year: abt 1859
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Alfred
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Botley, Hampshire, England
Civil parish: Botley
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Registration district: South Stoneham
Sub-registration district: South Stoneham
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household schedule number: 56
Household Members: Name Age
Alfred Emery 37
Sarah Emery 33
William Emery 12
Henry Emery 7
John Emery 1 year, 5 months

1881?

Name: William Emery
Age: 22
Estimated birth year: abt 1859
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Botley, Hampshire, England

Civil parish: Hound
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street Address: Victoria Road
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Dom Serv

Registration district: South Stoneham
Sub-registration district: St Mary Extra
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Walter Jurd 25
Sarah A. Jurd 30
Lily M. Jurd 6
Lydia S. Jurd 3
George C. Jurd 1
William Emery 22
Oliver Jurd 16

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 24 Nov 2009 14:23

Wow! This is my first thread, thankyou all so much for the info. Sue.

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 24 Nov 2009 14:12

If all else fails here is her birth record:

Births Jun 1899 (>99%)
Chandler Dorothy Ellen S. Stoneham 2c 95

Jan