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MY SON IN LAW SAID ANYONE WHO VOTES UKIP IS A WASTED VOTE.
WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF EVERYONE WHO HAD NO CONFIDENCE ON OTHER PARTIES VOTED FOR
THE WASTED VOTE
WONDER WHAT WOULD HAPPEN THEN,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

I think ukip have more votes than anyone will admit? Hope you are well Gwen xx

I must be a waster then :-D

The more people who vote UKIP the likelier the chance of a Labour majority.

In the real world I don't know anyone who supports UKIP, I know more Greens than Kippers.

If everyone who said they were going to vote Liberal at the last election had actually voted Liberal there would have been a very different outcome. Statistics show that people revert to type once the ballot paper is in their hands.

The single most serious illness infecting the body politic in the UK, or elsewhere, is the philosophy – if one can call it that – which says "Why bother voting. We can't change anything".

Democratic elections sometimes produce unexpected & unwelcome results.

Same as non-democratic elections where the electorate are ordered who to vote for.

I've said this here before. Mum was a Tory, Dad was Labour or Liberal.
Sometimes they would agree to not vote because they would only cancel each other out.

But Dad would always vote anyway. It was years before Mum found out. She found out by seeing him when she sneaked over to vote.

Always use your vote!

No vote is wasted!

Even if your preferred candidate doesn't get a majority, your vote shows other candidates that they dont have universal support. With our system, the total number of votes for other people usually exceed those for the winner.

People need to vote & be counted .its our right .I think All the parties are full of Hot air .But someone has to have The Key for No 10 Downing Street Who ? we shall see :-)

people who don't vote for a valid reason should be fined

Voting should be made compulsory like it is in OZ.

Then we would see which is the party that gets the key to No 10.

I hate the ones that moan after an election about who got into No 10 but they then say they did not vote.

Guinevere I used to do a lot of door step canvassing many years ago and a lot of people said their votes would cancel out their partners but they usually did vote

I don't think voting should be compulsory as not everybody agrees with representative democracy preferring for instance communism, fascism, government by caliphate or even anarchy. Quite a lot of people detest politicians of any stripe.

The thinking behind compulsory voting usually has more to do with the govts desire for registration and control than democracy per se. The USA gets on fine without compulsory voting for instance.

I do think we should have write in votes.

For those who do vote it shows they have thought about the matters and have made an effort to shift their backside to vote or send off their postal vote. Regardless of who they vote for , even UKIP, this is to be applauded.

The only wasted votes are votes never made inc. spoiled papers.

Been at local council counts and yes they do spoil ballot papers but why do they bother going to the polling station to do that.

After the Referendum, when the result was announced, the Official said

Votes in Favour *****
Votes Against ******
Blank Voting Papers ****
Papers with more than 1 vote *****
Torn Papers ****
Spoilt Papers *****

Total acceptable votes ****


I can't remember the actual figures, but it's the only time I have ever heard it done like that.

I agree with Ann

think of the Revenue fining none votes would generate :-D :-D

Think of the political fall out of taking somewhere around 15 million people to court .... not to mention the practical impossibility of doing so. Yeah, it works in Oz, so what? Oz is a far more authoritarian country than the UK has ever been or wanted to be Ms May excepted of course.

Say these 15 M disaffected people were coerced into voting and they mostly voted for The Screaming Loony Raving Monster Party, UKIP or the Greens or just spoiled their paper with anglo-saxon and urdu epithets then what ? Maybe that is how a creep such as Mr Abbott got to power.

So such a rule will never happen even though the rise of the SLRMP would please Mz Winchester.

In any case once minority parties get a sniff of power they are just as bad as all the others - look closely at how the SNP doesn't work for ordinary people in Edinburgh, how all the parties conspire against the common weal in Cardiff or the dubious antics of the Greens in Brighton. And then of course the Cleggies ... UKIP so far have the luxury of never having held office in the UK. Their near total inertia in Brussels (except for claiming expenses ) suggest that in the UK any UKIP MPs will be rare birds at Westminster - no better than the Irish men.

At least we now know what Brian Rix meant by the phrase "Whitehall Farce".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upEBdKFGlPg

I agree with you Sue voting should be made compulsory my daughter and son in law never vote and although I keep my mouth shut I think they should

could be a standard fine no court
like the old parishes used to do :-D

somebody in my family got finned for not going to church 4 Sundays in a row
and also for not marking his pig

were they fishmongers?

Who wants to vote for a misogynistic, homophobic, immirgrant hating bunch of idiots?

Farage is a foreigner, his wife is a foreigner, will they both go back to their homelands? I think not.....

Many of his ridiculous policies will take working laws back years, all that the unions and the suffragettes fought and died for gone.

Fiscal policies whic make little or no senses, and do not even add up!!


Me vote UKIP I would cut my own hands off first...