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Please can someone find Charley on the 1911 Census. This is the family on the 1891 and 1901 census. I do not know what happened to him after 1901. Perhaps he went abroad. I can't find a marriage or death for him. Please could someone have a quick look for him. Thanks for your help. Jane


Charley b Sept 1886 Newport M 11a 231

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Trecelyn, Mynyddyslwyn, Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales
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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Henry J Chorley Head Married Male 30 1861 Mason Milverton, Somerset, England
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Mary J Chorley Wife Married Female 31 1860 - Stogumber, Somerset, England
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William J Chorley Son - Male 9 1882 - Taunton, Somerset, England
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Charles Chorley Son - Male 4 1887 - Newbridge, Monmouthshire, Wales
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Edith Chorley Daughter - Female 0 1891 - Newbridge, Monmouthshire, Wales
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Charles Hurley Brother In Law Married Male 24 1867 Mason Stogumber, Somerset, England
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Emma Hurley Sister In Law Married Female 27 1864 - Gloucestershire, England
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Henry Hurley Boarder Single Male 23 1868 Labourer Mason Stogumber, Somerset, England


this is the family on the 1901 census

Henry J Chorley
Age in 1901: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Milverton, Somerset, England

Civil Parish: Abercarn
Ecclesiastical parish: Mynyddislwyn and St Tewdwr
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales

Street address: View Image
Condition as to marriage: View Image
Education: View Image
Employment status: View Image
Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Newport (Monmouthshire)
Sub registration district: Mynyddislwyn
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 23
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Chorley 14
Edith Chorley 10
Henry J Chorley 40
Mary J Chorley 8
William Chorley 19

Who are the children that died according to 1911, Father Henry?...(says 9 children born, 5 living, 4 died)


Marriages Sep 1879 (>99%)
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Chorley Henry James Taunton 5c 459
HURLEY Mary Jane Taunton 5c 459

Chris :)

Looks like he travelled to the US:

Name Charles Chorley
Event Type Draft Registration
Event Date 1917-1918
Event Place St. Clair County no 1, Illinois, United States
Gender Male
Nationality England
Birth Date 23 Jul 1889
Birthplace Wales, England, England <<<<<<<<<<<
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With his Brother?
1910 United States Federal Census
Name: Charles Chorley
[Charles Charley]
Age in 1910: 24
Birth Year: abt 1886
Birthplace: England
Home in 1910: Marissa, Saint Clair, Illinois
Street: Marrisa Road
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1909
Relation to Head of House: Boarder
Marital Status: Single
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Native Tongue: English
Occupation: Miner
Industry: Coal Mine
Employer, Employee or Other: Wage Earner
Naturalization Status: Alien
Household Members:
Name Age
William Webley 41
William Chorley 29
Charles Chorley 24
James Rees 32
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United States Census, 1920
Name Charles Chorley
Event Type Census
Event Date 1920
Event Place Marissa, St Clair, Illinois, United States
Gender Male
Age 30
Marital Status Married
Race White
Race (Original) White
Relationship to Head of Household (Original) Head
Own or Rent Rent
Birth Year (Estimated) 1890
Birthplace England
Immigration Year 1910
Father's Birthplace England
Mother's Birthplace England
Sheet Letter A
Sheet Number 11

Sorry Chris I do not know. There are a few children born in that area who died young but couldn't say whether they were Henry's children. I didn't have the 1911 census to help me.

?
Henry b 1884 d 1887
Wyndham Chappell b1885 d 1887
Alfred George b1889 d 1889
Henry b1889 d 1889

Thanks Chris

Death 1958:

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=114677293

AustinQ

That find is looking really promising. The ages between Charles and William is correct.

Thank you so much.

Jane

(sorry folks, can't stay!, but adding below?)

Chris :)

Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960 Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) CHAS
Last name CHARLEY
Gender Male
Marital status S
Occupation LABR
Departure year 1910
Departure day 1
Departure month m 1
Departure port LIVERPOOL
Destination port NEW YORK
Destination NEW YORK
Country United States
Destination country United States
Ship name CARMANIA
Ship official number120901


http://newspapers.library.wales/view/4188867/4188869/14/

(William, 1908)


http://newspapers.library.wales/search/advanced

(from above, online)

Edits (No, looks like him below. J not V)


CHARLEY W V 1907 Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960 New York, United States (Ship, Umbria)

Thanks Chris

I will have to do some more research into this. This lea is looking really promising.

all the best

Jane

Here is the 1911 census.....

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
30 High Street Newbridge Mon, Abercarn, Monmouthshire, Wales

Henry James Chorley Head Widower Male Colliery Below Ground Bricklayer
51 1860 Somerset Taunton
Edith Chorley Daughter Single Female 20 1891 Monmouthshire Abercarn
Mary Jane Williams Daughter Married Female 18 1893 Monmouthshire Abercarn
Arthur Dainel Williams Son In Law Married Male Coal Miner Hewer 19 1892
Monmouthshire Abercarn
Charles Hurley Brother Married Male Bricklayer Below Ground 46 1865 Somerset Taunton
Emma Hurley Sister In Law Married Female - 48 1863 Glosstershire
Ciril Bersford Williams Grandson - Male - 0 1911 Monmouthshire Abercarn
Harry Sydney Daives Boarder Married Male Stoker Colliery 30 1881 Somerset Taunton

Crossed out but states...9 children born, 4 living, 5 had died

Thanks PricklyHolly

I will add this to my records. This complicates things because if Charles brother William is still in England who is that William in America with Charles?

All the best

Jane

The son William is not on the 1911 census I posted.

Marriages Dec 1910   (>99%)
Chorley  Mary J  Newport M.  11a 420
Williams  Arthur D  Newport M  11a 420

The son........

Births Mar 1911   (>99%)
WILLIAMS  Cyril B  Newport M.  11a 337

Sorry PricklyHolly I seemed to have got a bit confused. I have William J Chorley marrying an Elsie Williams but I am not convinced about this anymore. I do not even have a marriage for William and Elsie so I will have to investigate furher. Looks as if I may have gone wrong here.

Thanks for all your help

Jane

William James is mentioned on his father's probate......


Henry J Chorley in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Henry J Chorley
Birth Date: abt 1859
Date of Registration: Dec 1935
Age at Death: 76
Registration district: Newport
Inferred County: Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 261


Henry James Chorley in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966, 1973-1995
Name: Henry James Chorley
Death Date: 10 Oct 1935
Death Place: Monmouthshire, Wales
Probate Date: 25 Oct 1935
Registry: Llandaff

Of 30 High Street, Newbridge, Monmouthshire.

To William James Chorley bricklayer.....and Arthur Daniel Williams unemployment Insurance board clerk.

Effects: £1164 4s 4d

William James Chorley in the British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920
Name: William James Chorley
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1882 (23rd Oct 1881)
Birth Place: Rowbarton, Somerset, England (Taunton, Somerset)
Occupation: Bricklayer
Enlistment Age: 33
Document Year: 1915
Regimental Number: 235951
Number of Images: 27
Form Title: Attestation
Family Members:
Name
Relation to Soldier
William James Chorley
Self (Head)

Next of kin: Father H J Chorley...Newbridge, Newport, Mon


Births Dec 1881   (>99%)
CHORLEY  William James  Taunton 5c 365

The military records states he married Elsie Elizabeth Williams 18/12/1918 Newport, Monmouth.

2 witnesses.......Henry J Chorley and W Williams

Res: 41 North Road, Newport, Monmouthshire.

Marriages Mar 1918   (>99%)
Chorley  William J  Williams  Newport M. 11a 344
Williams  Elsie E Chorley Newport M. 11a 344

Thank you so much PricklyHolly.

I will add this information to my records. So if he went to America it seems he came back quite quickly.

If that was him on the 1910 census in America he must have come back soon after to have joined the Army in 1915.

All the best

Jane

Elsie (E) Chorley on the 1939 Register

Williams Household (3 People)
41 North Road , Abercarn U.D., Monmouthshire, Wales

Elsie (E) Chorley 21 Sep 1894 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Widowed 218 2
Charlotte Williams 22 Aug 1904 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Widowed 218 1
John Chorley 25 Apr 1923 Male At School Single 218 4

2 closed records......one before and one after John

(Charlotte Williams year of birth....1864 on the image) Elsie's mother perhaps?

Births Sep 1919   (>99%)
Chorley  William H  Williams  Newport M.  11a 570
  
Births Jun 1922   (>99%)
Chorley  Elsie M  Williams  Newport M. 11a 584
  
Births Jun 1923   (>99%)
Chorley  John D  Williams Newport M.  11a 607

Elsie Elizabeth Williams in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Elsie Elizabeth Williams
Registration Year: 1894
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Newport
Inferred County: Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 256


1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
13 Main Street Newbridge Newport Mon, Abercarn, Monmouthshire, Wales

Charlotte Williams Head Widowm Female- 46 1865 Abercarn Mon
William Williams Son Single Male Coal Miner Hewer 27 1884 Newbridge Mon
Elsie E Williams Daughter Single Female - 16 1895 Newbridge Mon
Trevor W Williams Son Single Male - 13 1898 Newbridge Mon
Reggie H Williams Son Single Male Coal Miner Hewer 12 1899 Newbridge Mon

Charles' entry to USA in 1910 doesn't have a brother with him. He gives name of relative at home as father James Chorley, High St., Newbridge, Mon.

He's going to join brother William Chorley, 351 Box, Marissa St., Charles Co., Illinois.

He seems to be with James Rees who's going to join friend William Chorley, same address. James nearest relative was mother Mrs. Anne Rees, High St., Newbridge, Mon.