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John Colwell Jenkins m Elizabeth Jane Rockett

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Glenn

Glenn Report 26 Aug 2015 08:56

Morning all,
Can anyone offer additional info on the above names.
would be much appreciated if you can help,both were from the Devon area and possibly married c1877,Would like info on John`s parents, if possible.
Thankyou for your help,
Glenn.

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 26 Aug 2015 09:00

Hi Glenn.
Just a small point - the marriage took place in 1876, you can find it on Freebmd.
John's birth is 1857, middle name recorded as Colwell.
Jan

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 26 Aug 2015 09:26

Can you give names and dates of birth of known children from the Marriage? Thanks

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 26 Aug 2015 09:53

A tree on Ancestry gives his parents as
John Colwell Jenkins Snr Birth 1828 in Devon, England and Ann

They give John Colwell Jenkin's jr as

Birth 1857 30 Aug St Neot, Cornwall, England
Marriage to Elizabeth Jane Rockett
1876 30 Apr Age: 18 Devon, England

Its been copied from other trees.
............

The birth probably orginated from this

Day Month 27-Sep
Year 1857
Parish Or Reg District Neot, St.
Forename John Colwell
Surname JENKIN
Sex son
Father Forename John Colwell
Mother Forename Ann
Residence Higher Newton
Father Rank Profession Labourer

http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/
..........

Births Dec 1857 (>99%)
Jenkins John Colwell Liskeard 5c 61

The BC would give Ann's maiden name

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 26 Aug 2015 10:12

The MC would confirm the name of his father

Marriages Jun 1876 (>99%)
Jenkins John Colwill Stoke D 5b 608

http://www.marriage-locator.co.uk/ does not recognise the references - its possible the marriage took place in a Regster Office, or with a Registrar attending

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 26 Aug 2015 10:24

1861

Name: John C Jenkin
Age: 33
Estimated birth year: 1828
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann Jenkin
Gender: Male
Where born: North Petherwin, Devon, England
Civil Parish: St Neot
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England
Street address:

Registration district: Liskeard
Sub-registration district: Liskeard
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 54
Piece: 1530
Folio: 55
Page Number: 12
Household Members:
Name Age
John C Jenkin 33
Ann Jenkin 34 - Week St Mary, Devon, England
Elizabeth Jenkin 9 - North Petherwin, Devon, England
Mary G Jenkin 7 - South Petherwin, Cornwall, England
Eliza Jenkin 5 - St Ive, Cornwall, England
John C Jenkin 3 - St Neot, Cornwall, England
Betsey A Jenkin 1 - St Neot, Cornwall, England
.............

England & Wales, Non-Conformist and Non-Parochial Registers, 1567-1970

Name: John Colwell Jenkin
Birth Date: 5 Apr 1828
Birth Place: Petherwin, Cornwall, England
Gender: Male
Event Type: Baptism
Father: Richard Jenkin
Mother: Grace Colwell
Baptism Date: 15 May 1828
Baptism Place: Kilkhampton, Cornwall, England
Denomination: Bible Christian
Piece Title: Piece 0103: Kilkhampton (Bible Christian), 1817-1836

John Colwell the son of Richard Jenkin of the parish of Petherwise County of Cornwall, Labourer and of Grace his wife (who was the daughter of William and Hannah Colwell) was born on the fifth day of April in the year of our Lord, one thousand eight hundred and twenty eight; and was solemnly Baptised with water, in the Name of the Father, and of the Son , and of the Holy Ghost, on the Fifthteenth day of May in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and twenty eight at Webworthy in the parish and county aforesaid by me
Richard Mollen, Minister

Now we know where his middle name came from!

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 26 Aug 2015 10:36

1881

Name: John C. Jenkin
Age: 51
Estimated birth year: abt 1830
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Ann Jenkin
Gender: Male
Where born: Devon, England
Civil Parish: Stoke Damerel
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Street address: 13 Duke St
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: 6/4/1 Store Keeper
Registration district: Stoke Damerel
Sub registration district: St Aubyn
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Piece: 2206
Folio: 100
Page Number: 5

Household Members:
Name Age
John C. Jenkin 51
Ann Jenkin 52
Betsey A. Ford 21 - daughter (married)
Alice M. Ford 1 - grandaughter, Devonport
Richard Jenkin 19 - son, Cornwall - occ Baker
Alice Jenkin 9 - Daughter, b Cornwall

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 26 Aug 2015 11:01

John C Jenkin Jr?

Name: John C Jenkins
Age: 43
Estimated birth year: abt 1858
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Elizabeth Jenkins
Birth Place: St Neot, Cornwall, England
Civil Parish: Alverstoke
Ecclesiastical parish: Alverstoke St Mary and Anglesey St Mark and Newtown Christchurch
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Street address: 19 Carlyle Rd
Occupation: Machinist in Dockyard

Registration district: Alverstoke
Sub-registration district: Alverstoke
ED, institution, or vessel: 08
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1010
Folio: 30
Page Number: 3
Household schedule number: 19
Household Members:

Name Age
John C Jenkins 43
Elizabeth Jenkins 42 - Devonport
Charles Jenkins 21 - Devonport
Beatrice Jenkins 13 - St Leonard's Sussex

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 26 Aug 2015 11:06

Elizabeth before her marriage
1871 census

Name: Elizabeth J Rockett
Age: 11
Estimated birth year: abt 1860
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Robert C Rockett
Mother's name: Loveday Rockett
Gender: Female
Where born: Devonport, Devon, England
Civil Parish: Stoke Damerel
Ecclesiastical parish: St James the Great
Town: Devonport
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Registration district: Stoke Damerel
Sub-registration district: Tamar
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household schedule number: 15
Piece: 2138
Folio: 6
Page Number: 3
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert C Rockett 46 Devonport, Devon, England
Loveday Rockett 45 Bodmin, Cornwall, England
Katherine L Pengelly 19 Devonport, Devon, England , daughter, married
Frederick Rockett 13 Devonport
Elizabeth J Rockett 11 Devonport
Laura Rockett 7 Devonport
Emma Rockett 5 Devonport

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 26 Aug 2015 11:11

Robert's marriage
Marriages Dec 1847 (>99%)
MENHENCOTT Lovedy Stoke Damerel 9 600
Rockett Robert Charles Stoke Daml. 9 600

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

You'd probably need tp buy the MC to see the name of her father

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 26 Aug 2015 11:29

1841 - no relationships or marital status shown

Name: Loveday Menhencot
[Loveday Menheniot]
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1826
Gender: Female
Where born: Cornwall, England
Civil Parish: Bodmin
Hundred: Trigg
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England
Street address: Old Prison
Registration district: Bodmin
Sub-registration district: Bodmin

Piece: 152
Book: 2
Folio: 50
Page Number: 31
Household Members:
Name Age
Susan Menhencot 50 Charwoman
Mary Menhencot 45 Charwoman
Loveday Menhencot 15 Farm Servant
All born in Cornwall. Adults ages are rounded up to the nearest 5

Glenn

Glenn Report 26 Aug 2015 21:29

Can i sincerely thank you, one and all,for the information you have very kindly sourced,please be assured we are very grateful for your help,and in turn wish you well with your own searches.
Yours in success,
Glenn.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 26 Aug 2015 22:28

John's parents' marriage:


Ann Fry
England, Cornwall and Devon Parish Registers
Name John Jenkin
Event Type Marriage
Event Date 20 Sep 1847
Event Place Week St Mary, Cornwall, England
Gender Male
Age 20
Marital Status Single
Birth Year (Estimated) 1827
Father's Name Richard Jenkin
Spouse's Name Ann Fry
Spouse's Gender Female
Spouse's Age 20
Spouse's Marital Status Single
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated) 1827
Spouse's Father's Name John Fry

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 26 Aug 2015 22:35

Anna Jenkins
in the 1851 England Census

Name: Anna Jenkins
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1827
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John Jenkins
Gender: Female
Where born: Week St Mary, Cornwall, England
Civil Parish: North Petherwin
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Registration district: Launceston
Sub-registration district: Alternon
ED, institution, or vessel: 6a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 14
Piece: 1899
Folio: 178
Page Number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
John Jenkins 22 - b. North Petherwin
Anna Jenkins 24
George Jenkins 2 b. Week St Mary
Mary Fry 21 - visitor, b. Week St Mary

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 26 Aug 2015 22:44

Ann in 1841:

Ann Maria Fry
in the 1841 England Census
Name: Ann Maria Fry
Age: 12
Estimated birth year: abt 1829
Gender: Female
Civil Parish: St Mary Week
Hundred: Stratton
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England
Registration district: Stratton
Sub-registration district: St Mary Week
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 151
Book: 11
Folio: 17
Page Number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
John Rocker Fry 50
Elizabeth Fry 48
Ann Maria Fry 12
Harriett Fry 10
Grace Fry 14

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 26 Aug 2015 22:48

Ann's father's christening (1851 & 1861 censuses say he was born in Ashwater):


John Rockey Fry
England Births and Christenings
Name John Rockey Fry
Gender Male
Christening Date 28 Aug 1785
Christening Place ASHWATER,DEVON,ENGLAND
Father's Name John Fry
Mother's Name Ann

malyon

malyon Report 26 Aug 2015 23:07

Loveday Rockett
England, Devon, Parish Registers
Name Loveday Rockett
Event Type Burial
Event Date 1898
Event Place Devon
Age 70
Birth Year (Estimated) 1828
Source Reference 166/99/b

malyon

malyon Report 26 Aug 2015 23:11

Name Robert Charles Rockett
Event Type Burial
Event Date 1885
Event Place Devon
Age 62
Birth Year (Estimated) 1823
Source Reference 166/97/b

mgnv

mgnv Report 27 Aug 2015 03:39

Detective
Re "Adults ages are rounded up to the nearest 5"

NO !!!
In 1841, ages >15 were supposed to be rounded DOWN to a mult of 5.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 27 Aug 2015 07:12

Plymouth Deaths & Burials Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) John Colwill
Last name Jenkins
Age 8mths
Birth year 1879
Burial year 1879
Burial date 06 Sep 1879 (Died 4th)
(Abode, Keat Street)
Denomination Anglican
Place Stoke Damerel
County Devon
Archive Plymouth & West Devon Record Office

Chris :)