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Member Since: April 2003 Posts: 284 Send Message	Susan	Report	1 Jun 2015 00:29
Member Since: April 2003 Posts: 284 Send Message	trying to find the father of George Henry Adams born c1849 in Fordcomb Kent, All I know about his father is he is called John Adams, George had several siblings and he was married to Eliza Jane DeMeza together they had eleven children all born in Fordcomb Kent, I know his father is John as its on his wedding cert but that's all there is apart from he was a smithy, Any help would be great John is my brick wall. Thank you for taking the time to read this Sue.
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 46,007 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	1 Jun 2015 04:40
	Unfortunately, the fact that George names his father as "John" on his marriage certificate does not mean that is true ............ Children whose father died early or who were illegitimate would often put "a name" down in the father box on their marriage certificate ........... it looked better to the other family. No proof had to be shown as to the veracity of any entry on a marriage certificate ............... I certainly didn't have to prove my father's name and occupation when we married in England in 1967.
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Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 46,007 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	1 Jun 2015 04:49
	I don't understand :-S Because I cannot find anything that looks like George born in Kent (let alone Fordcombe) in the censuses on ancestry, I looked at the tree that you have IF you have the correct George and Jane, then you also have cited censuses where George says he was born in Belpourt, Middlesex :-S for example 1901 Census Name: George H Adams Age: 50 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Spouse: Eliza J Adams Birth Place: Belpourt, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Tunbridge Wells Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul Town: Rusthall County/Island: Kent Country: England Registration district: Tonbridge Sub-registration district: Tunbridge Wells ED, institution, or vessel: 05 Piece: 752 Folio: 13 Page Number: 17 Household schedule number: 118 George H Adams 50 Bricklayer Eliza J Adams 49 b.ca 1852, Fordcombe, Kent John Adams 21 b.ca 1880, Rusthall, Kent, Bricklayer Amos Adams 19 b.ca 1882, Rusthall, Grocer's Assistant Nellie Adams 11 b.ca 1890, Rusthall Florence Adams 9 b.ca 1892, Rusthall
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Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 46,007 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	1 Jun 2015 05:06
	this then looks like him in 1881 ...... again born in Middlesex Name: George Adams Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851 Relationship to Head: Head Spouse: Jane Adams Gender: Male Where born: Belfont, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Speldhurst County/Island: Kent and in 1891 Name: George Adams Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Jane Adams Gender: Male Where born: Hanworth, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Speldhurst Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul Town: Rusthall New Town County/Island: Kent Country: England
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Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 46,007 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	1 Jun 2015 05:09
	Eliza was born, baptised in Fordcombe and lived in Fordcombe England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906 Name: Eliza Jane Demeza Gender: Female Christening Date: 12 Sep 1852 Christening Place: Fordcombe, Kent, England Father's name: John Demeza Mother's name: Jane Ann
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Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 46,007 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	1 Jun 2015 05:26
	This is an interesting one ............... They are living in Shoreditch, Middlesex. Father John is an engine driver, but the eldest son John is a Blacksmith! 1861 Census Name: George Adams Age: 11 Estimated Birth Year: 1850 Relation: Son (Child) Father's name: John Adams Mother's name: Mary Adams Gender: Male Where born: Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Shoreditch Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Baptist County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Registration district: Shoreditch Sub-registration district: Hoxton Old Town ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Household schedule number: 231 Piece: 240 Folio: 154 Page Number: 36 John Adams 38 Engine Driver Mary Adams 36 John Adams 19 Blacksmith Sarah Adams 14 Mary Adams 12 George Adams 11
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Member Since: May 2004 Posts: 2,262 Send Message	Gritty	Report	1 Jun 2015 08:09
Member Since: May 2004 Posts: 2,262 Send Message	1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Wood End, Northolt, Uxbridge, Middlesex, England John Adams Head Married Male 39 1812 Ag Lab Nunton, Wiltshire, England Hannah Adams Wife Married Female 42 1809 - Middlesex, England Harriet Adams Daughter Unmarried Female 12 1839 - Sudbury, Middlesex, England Ann Adams Daughter - Female 10 1841 - Sudbury, Middlesex, England Ambrose Adams Son - Male 7 1844 - Sudbury, Middlesex, England Henry Stocks Visitor - Male 6 1845 - Pinner, Middlesex, England Eliza Adams Daughter - Female 5 1846 - Sudbury, Middlesex, England George Adams Son - Male 2 1849 - Bedford, Middlesex, England You state George had several siblings- where is this information from- what were their names? Who were the witnesses on George's marriage and what was his address?
Member Since: April 2003 Posts: 284 Send Message	Susan	Report	1 Jun 2015 23:50
Member Since: April 2003 Posts: 284 Send Message	Oh my goodness thank you so so much its no wonder I couldn't find them one line I was trying to follow had his father born in Boars head I thought it a pub but apparently not,lol, I have been stuck on this for years but when I saw Amos and john and Nellie I knew it had to be the right family, I have Eliza as buried at Rusthall, and some reocrds I have checked has them at forcomb, Penshurst, Speldhurst and some even in Tonbridge, I will add what I have tomorrow, I have John as his father as that's the name on his marriage ccertificate. Thank you so much for your help Sue
Member Since: April 2003 Posts: 284 Send Message	Susan	Report	2 Jun 2015 00:00
Member Since: April 2003 Posts: 284 Send Message	OK so I have him born c 1849 fordcomb kent ( this is what I have already), Married to Eliza Jane deMeza 27th Oct 1871, 1881 Residence in Age: 32 Speldhurst, Kent, England in 1901 residence Tunbridge Died Tunbridge 1906, I am assuming he is buried in Tunbridge, as I said before Eliza is buried in Rusthall. Sue
Member Since: May 2004 Posts: 2,262 Send Message	Gritty	Report	2 Jun 2015 08:12
Member Since: May 2004 Posts: 2,262 Send Message	Who were the witnesses on the on George and Eliza's marriage certificate? And what was George's address? ---------------------------------------------------- Same family 1911 after George's death: 1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 21 Gladstone Road Rust Hall, Tunbridge Wells, Kent, England Jane Adams Head Widow Female 58 1853 Speldhurst Kent Care Taker Of School's Florence Adams Daughter Single Female 19 1892 Speldhurst Kent Charles Adams Grandchild - Male 9 1902 Speldhurst Kent - Maria Cashford Boarder Married Female 24 1887 Speldhurst Kent Albert Cashford Boarder Married Male 24 1887 Tenterden Kent Labourer To Bricklayer Ivy Cashford Daughter Of Boarder - Female 1 1910 Speldhurst Kent - 11 children, 9 still living
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,291 Send Message	alviegal	Report	2 Jun 2015 11:21
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,291 Send Message	Also on this forum. http://www.ancestryaid.co.uk/topic/22551-adams-george-henry/ As was suggested, this seems likely to be him in 1871. 1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Fordcombe Road, Penshurst, Sevenoaks, Kent, England Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place George Adams Lodger - Male 22 1849 ag lab Hounslow, Middlesex, England lodging with this family. Henry Skinner Head - Male 35 1836 - Kent, England Transcription Francis Skinner Wife - Female 37 1834 - Kent, England Transcription Louisa Skinner Daughter - Female 11 1860 - Kent, England Transcription Henry Skinner Son - Male 9 1862 - Kent, England Transcription Frances Skinner Daughter - Female 7 1864 - Kent, England Transcription Thomas Skinner Son - Male 5 1866 - Kent, England Transcription George Skinner Son - Male 3 1868 - Kent, England Transcription Alfred Skinner Son - Male 0 1871 - Kent, England
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,291 Send Message	alviegal	Report	2 Jun 2015 11:27
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,291 Send Message	A tree on ancestry has this for him. GEORGE HENRY Adams Birth 15 Nov 1848 in Belfont, Westerham, Middlesex, England Death 24 Feb 1906 in Tunbridge Wells, Kent, England This tree seems to have mistakes on it for Eliza Jane so does not seem to be very credible. Marriage to GEORGE HENRY Adams 1871 27 Oct Age: 19 Fordcombe (St Peter), Tunbridge Wells, Kent, England Marriage to Abraham Jenner 1879 Age: 27 Death 1928 Q4 Age: 76 Tonbridge RD, Kent, England EDIT Westerham is a town and civil parish in the Sevenoaks District of Kent. It is located on the border of Kent with Greater London and Surrey, bordering Bromley and the Tandridge District. It is located west of Sevenoaks.
Member Since: August 2007 Posts: 10,047 Send Message	safc	Report	2 Jun 2015 11:29
	1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Reese Brooks, Harrow on the Hill, Hendon, Middlesex, England Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place John Adams Male 30 1811 - Transcription Hannah Adams Female 30 1811 Middlesex, England Transcription Elizabeth Adams Female 12 1829 Middlesex, England Transcription Emma Adams Female 10 1831 Middlesex, England Transcription Caroline Adams Female 7 1834 Middlesex, England Transcription John Adams Male 5 1836 Middlesex, England Transcription Harriet Adams Female 2 1839 Middlesex, England
	Researching: Abby says please do not send messages to safc, always reply on your thread, as Abby is just a paying member of genes reunited. helping other members. thank you.
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,291 Send Message	alviegal	Report	2 Jun 2015 11:35
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,291 Send Message	??? 1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Wood End, Northolt, Uxbridge, Middlesex, England Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place >.John Adams Head Married Male 39 1812 Ag Lab Nunton, Wiltshire, England Transcription Hannah Adams Wife Married Female 42 1809 - Harrow, Middlesex, England Transcription Harriet Adams Daughter Unmarried Female 12 1839 - Sudbury, Middlesex, England Transcription Ann Adams Daughter - Female 10 1841 - Sudbury, Middlesex, England Transcription Ambrose Adams Son - Male 7 1844 - Sudbury, Middlesex, England Transcription Henry Stocks Visitor - Male 6 1845 - Pinner, Middlesex, England Transcription Eliza Adams Daughter - Female 5 1846 - Sudbury, Middlesex, England Transcription >>George Adams Son - Male 2 1849 - Bedford, Middlesex, England (reads Bedfont, I think) Bedfont is a suburban district of Hounslow in West London, 13 miles (21 km) WSW of Charing Cross and 2 miles (3 km) from Heathrow Airport. It straddles Staines Road (A305) and the River Crane and includes the area informally known as North Feltham and the neighbourhood of Hatton.
Member Since: August 2007 Posts: 10,047 Send Message	safc	Report	2 Jun 2015 11:43
	Middlesex Baptisms - Cliff Webb Transcription Print transcription Attach to tree First name(s) HARRIET Last name ADAMS Baptism year 1839 Baptism day 17 Baptism month Mar Parish Harrow, St Mary Father's first name(s) John Mother's first name(s) Hannah Mother's last name - Relationship Daughter Occupation Labourer Residence Sudbury County Middlesex Country England Record set Middlesex Baptisms - Cliff Webb Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Births & baptisms Collections from Great Britain
	Researching: Abby says please do not send messages to safc, always reply on your thread, as Abby is just a paying member of genes reunited. helping other members. thank you.
Member Since: August 2007 Posts: 10,047 Send Message	safc	Report	2 Jun 2015 11:48
	Middlesex Baptisms - Cliff Webb Transcription Print transcription Attach to tree First name(s) ELIZABETH Last name ADAMS Baptism year 1829 Baptism day 4 Baptism month Jan Parish Harrow, St Mary Father's first name(s) John Mother's first name(s) Hannah Mother's last name - Relationship Daughter Occupation Labourer Residence Sudbury County Middlesex Country England Record set Middlesex Baptisms - Cliff Webb Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Births & baptisms Collections from Great Britain
	Researching: Abby says please do not send messages to safc, always reply on your thread, as Abby is just a paying member of genes reunited. helping other members. thank you.
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,291 Send Message	alviegal	Report	2 Jun 2015 11:53
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,291 Send Message	Name: George Henry Adams Probate Date: 21 May 1929 Death Date: 24 Feb 1906 Death Place: Tunbridge Wells, Kent, England Registry: London, England of 21 Gladstone Rd,Tunbridge Wells. Administration to George Henry Adams and John Charles Adams bricklayers and Amos Percy Adams foreman. EFFECTS £425
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,291 Send Message	alviegal	Report	2 Jun 2015 11:58
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,291 Send Message	??? John Adams in the London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 Name: John Adams Spouse: Hannah Putman Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 30 Dec 1827 Parish: St Mary, Islington Borough: Islington Register Type: Parish Register
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 46,007 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	2 Jun 2015 18:02
	alviegal ......... I also wondered about that 1851 Census with John and Hannah Adams. It does seem the most likely of all the George Adams ..... maybe he stretched the truth about his father's occupation on the marriage certificate!
	Researching: My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 46,007 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	2 Jun 2015 18:06
	Susan ................. you posted ................ --------- Susan Report 1 Jun 2015 23:50 Oh my goodness thank you so so much its no wonder I couldn't find them one line I was trying to follow had his father born in Boars head I thought it a pub but apparently not,lol, I have been stuck on this for years but when I saw Amos and john and Nellie I knew it had to be the right family, I have Eliza as buried at Rusthall, and some reocrds I have checked has them at forcomb, Penshurst, Speldhurst and some even in Tonbridge, I will add what I have tomorrow, I have John as his father as that's the name on his marriage ccertificate. Thank you so much for your help Sue -------------- I did NOT confirm your findings with the posting of the 1901 Census ...... ....... I copied the census from your own ancestry tree to show that you were saying one thing about George's birthplace while accepting a census on your tree with evidence of another birth place. And that this was confusing me! In other words ...... you were looking for someone born in a place where he was NOT born. No wonder you couldn't find him! But equally ........... you were setting us off on a false trail!
	Researching: My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

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