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Hello - I am looking for any information, family tree, family photos, documents etc for:

William James CANN married Laura BUNKER
Children: Cyril William Roy, Poppy Rosa, Gilbert Howard

Gilbert Howard married Violet Evelyn DALBY - buried in NZ.

Gilbert Howard is my Uncle's father. My Uncle is 83 years old and not keeping well and I would love to find out as much information as possible for him and my cousins. They do not have much information at all and I would like to produce a small booklet to him with his family history.

My Uncle and his parents came to NZ in 1949.

I have found some information on line e.g. Naval records etc but if anyone has any further detailed information, that would be greatly appreciated.
I am happy to exchange updated family details of Gilbert Henry's family - one son (my uncle), he had 2 sons, 2 x grandsons and one great grandson.

If you can help in anyway, that would be awesome and appreciated.
Kind Regards
Sally
Leeston, Canterbury, South Island, New Zealand

Just for info:

Marriages Mar 1896
Cann William James Plympton 5b 321 <<<<<<
Carroll George Plympton 5b 321
Maddock Eliza Grace Plympton 5b 321

Looks like Laura's page number got missread:

Marriages Mar 1896 Bunker Laura Plympton 5b 821

Again, just for info for helpers:

Census 1911:


1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census

5 Trematon Terrace Mutley Plymouth, Plymouth, Devon, England

William James Cann Head Married Male 43 1868 Egg Buckland Devon Royal Navy Gunner
Laura Cann Wife Married Female 44 1867 Devon Plympton -
Cyril Willam Cann Son - Male 13 1898 Devon Plympton School
Poppy Rosa Cann Daughter - Female 11 1900 Devon Stonehouse School
Gilbert Howard Cann Son - Male 3 1908 Devon Plymouth

Married 15 years, 3 children born, 3 children still living.

Census 1911 said William was born Egg Buckland c 1868:

?????

Baptism:

First name(s) William James
Last name Cann
Birth year 1867
Birth date ? ? 1867
Baptism year 1867
Baptism date 22 Sep 1867
Denomination Anglican
Place Egg Buckland
Father's first name(s) John<<<<<<<<<<<<
Mother's first name(s) Marianne<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Mother's last name -
County Devon
Country England
Archive Plymouth & West Devon Record Office
Archive reference 445/6
Page -
Record set Devon Baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Births & baptisms

'Marianne' is recorded as Mary Jane in 1871:

Name: William Cann
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Son (Child)
Father's name: John Cann
Mother's name: Mary Jane Cann
Gender: Male
Where born: Egg Buckland, Devon, England
Civil Parish: [Charles]
Ecclesiastical parish: [Charles]
Town: Plymouth
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Registration district: Plymouth
Sub-registration district: Charles
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Household schedule number: 494
Piece: 2114
Folio: 47
Page Number: 87

Household Members:
Name Age
John Cann 30 Fireman at gas works c1841 Exbourne, Devon, England
Mary Jane Cann 24 c1847 Egg Buckland, Devon, England
William Cann 3 c1868 Egg Buckland, Devon, England
John Cann 2 c1869 Plymouth, Devon, England
Bessie F Cann 3 Months c1871 Plymouth, Devon, England

Looks like it probably was Mary Jane rather than Marianne (name on baptism mistranscribed perhaps?)

Marriage:

First name(s) JOHN
Last name CANN
Marriage year 1867
Marriage day 4
Marriage month Mar
Parish Eggbuckland
Marriage place PLYMOUTH
Groom's first name(s) John<<<<<<<<<<<<
Groom's last name Cann<<<<<<<<<<<
Groom's age -
Groom's parish -
Groom's father's first name(s) James<<<<<<<<<<
Groom's father's last name Cann<<<<<<<<<
Bride's first name(s) Mary Jane<<<<<<<<<<<
Bride's last name Cox<<<<<<<<<<
Bride's parish -
Bride's age 20
Bride's father's first name(s) William<<<<<<<<<<
Bride's father's last name Cox<<<<<<<<
County Devon
Record set Devon Marriages - Transcripts
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
Collections from Great Britain

John Cann was a labourer, as was father James, and also William Cox.
Both bride and groom signed their names, Witness William Cox made his mark, witness Elizabeth Sarah Gullett signed.

Looks like William James was 'premature'....

census 1871 says Mary Jane was born c1847 Egg Buckland, she was 20 on marriage in 1867 with father named William:

???

First name(s) Mary Jane
Last name Cox
Birth year 1847
Birth date ? ? 1847
Baptism year 1847
Baptism date 14 Feb 1847
Denomination Anglican
Place Egg Buckland
Father's first name(s) William
Mother's first name(s) Ann
Mother's last name -
County Devon
Country England
Archive Plymouth & West Devon Record Office
Archive reference -
Page 186
Record set Devon Baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Births & baptisms
Collections from Great Britain

Father is a labourer on register image.

John Cann was born c1841 Exborne according to census 1871 posted earlier, marriage shows father named James.

????


Devon Baptisms Transcription

First name(s) John<<<<
Last name Cann<<<<<
Birth year -
Baptism year 1841
Baptism date 15 Aug 1841
Denomination Anglican
Baptism place Exbourne<<<<
Father's first name(s) James<<<<<<<<<<<<
Mother's first name(s) Margaret<<<<<<<<<<
Mother's last name -
County Devon
Country England
Archive South West Heritage Trust
Archive reference 3326A/PR/1/5
Record set Devon Baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Births & baptisms
Collections from Great Britain

Image shows Father James to be a labourer.

Births Sep 1841 Cann John Okehampton 10 _66

(Exborne comes under Okehampton reg district)

Hi Sally


It is unlikely that anyone with knowledge of the family will see your post, by just passing by.


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James and Margaret Cann with John in census 1851? Very handily has James' pa in law with the family:


1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Okehampton Road, Exbourne, Okehampton, Devon, England

James Cann Head Married Male 35 1816 Farm Labourer Jacobstow, Devon, England <<<<
Margaret Cann Wife Married Female 33 1818 - Exbourne, Devon, England <<<<<<<<<<
John Cann Son - Male 10 1841 - Exbourne, Devon, England <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Jane Cann Daughter - Female 7 1844 - Exbourne, Devon, England
Elizabeth Cann Daughter - Female 1 1850 - Exbourne, Devon, England
John Westlake Father-In-Law Wr Male 55 1796 - Exbourne, Devon, England

Marriage for James and Margaret:


Devon Marriages Transcription

First name(s) Margaret<<<<<<<<<<
Last name Westlake<<<<<<<<<<
Marriage year 1840
Birth year 1819
Spouse's first name(s) James<<<<<<<<
Spouse's last name Cann<<<<<<<<<
Residence Exbourne
County Devon
Denomination Anglican
Country England
Place Exbourne
Father's first name John<<<<<<<<<<<
Father's last name Westlake<<<<<<<<<<
Age 21
Marriage date 11 Oct 1840
Spouse age 21
Spouse's residence Exbourne
Spouse's father's first name(s) Richard<<<<<<<<<<<
Spouse's father's last name Cann<<<<<<<<<<<
Archive South West Heritage Trust
Archive reference 3326A/PR/1/8
Record set Devon Marriages
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces

census 1851 posted previously had James Cann born c1816 Jacobstowe, and marriage showed father named Richard. Jacobstowe is close to Exborne:

???


Devon Baptisms Transcription

First name(s) James<<<<<<<<<<<<
Last name Cann<<<<<<<<<<<
Birth year 1816
Birth date 14 Apr 1816
Baptism year 1816
Denomination Anglican
Baptism place Exbourne
Father's first name(s) Richard<<<<<<<<<<<
Father's occupation Labourer
Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth<<<<<<<<<<<
Residence Exbourne
County Devon
Archive South West Heritage Trust
Record set Devon Baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Births & baptisms
Collections from Great Britain

Are Betty and Elizabeth one and the same?


Devon Banns Registers 1538-1915

First name(s) Richard
Last name Cann
Banns year 1807
Marriage year 1807
Marriage date 27 Apr 1807
Parish Exbourne
Spouse's first name Betty
Spouse's last name Bolt
Residence Exbourne
Spouse's residence Exbourne
County Devon
Denomination Anglican
Country England
Archive South West Heritage Trust
Archive reference 3326A/PR/1/6
Record set Devon Banns Registers 1538-1915
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces

If this is widowed Elizabeth/Betty, she was no more than 16 or so when she married in 1807:


1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Higher Butterpitt, Jacobstowe, Okehampton, Devon, England

Elizabeth Cann Female 50 1791 Devon, England
Ann Cann Female 12 1829 Devon, England
George Cann Male 10 1831 Devon, England

????

Baptisms:

First name(s) George
Last name Cann
Birth year 1830
Birth date 01 Nov 1830
Baptism year 1830
Denomination Anglican
Baptism place Jacobstowe
Father's first name(s) Richard
Father's occupation Labourer
Mother's first name(s) Betty
Residence Jacobstowe
County Devon
Archive South West Heritage Trust
Record set Devon Baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Births & baptisms
Collections from Great Britain

First name(s) Anne
Last name Cann
Birth year 1828
Birth date 24 Feb 1828
Baptism year 1828
Denomination Anglican
Baptism place Jacobstowe
Father's first name(s) Richard
Father's occupation Labourer
Mother's first name(s) Betty
Residence Jacobstow
County Devon
Archive South West Heritage Trust
Record set Devon Baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Births & baptisms
Collections from Great Britain

I don't know if you have them, but I've pm'd two articles re the death of WJ Cann in 1930- one listing all the family and friends that attended.

Do you have access to the public trees on Ancestry.co.uk? At least one of them has photos, the marriage cert of Laura Bunker and W. J. , and the newsclippings of his death, plus photos of W J and Laura and their children.

Welcome to the Community Boards Sally.




(I'll let Sally know how to find her replies) :-)

Devon Marriages Transcription
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First name(s) WILLIAM JAMES
Last name CANN
Marriage year 1896
Marriage day 8
Marriage month Jan
Parish St Mary
Marriage place PLYMPTON
Groom's first name(s) William James
Groom's last name Cann
Groom's age 28
Groom's parish -
Groom's father's first name(s) John Westley
Groom's father's last name Cann
Bride's first name(s) Laura
Bride's last name Bunker
Bride's parish -
Bride's age 29
Bride's father's first name(s) Henry
Bride's father's last name Bunker
County Devon
Record set Devon Marriages - Transcripts
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
Collections from Great Britain

I've seen an image of the marriage safc posted above, and father John Westley Cann has had the last part of his middle name 'ley' croosed out and replaced with 'lake' ie John Westlake Cann.

Which supports my theory that John Cann is the son of James Cann and Margaret Westlake

Hello Sally,

Gilbert Howard Cann is my uncle. Cyril William Roy Cann is my grandfather.

I have researched the family using ancestry.co.uk

If you give me your email I can allow you to view the family tree (photos etc.) as a registered guest.

All the best,

Philip Thomas (Anglesey (Wales) - my e-mail - [email protected]