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Hi

I'm wondering if anyone knows how/where I would find out what happened to a couple of children after their parents died. Richard and William Barton were orphaned in 1823 and they both lived to be adults. I was just wondering if I'd be able to find out anywhere what happened inbetween.

Thanks
Samantha

Do you know when and where they were born and who their parents were ?

Richard was born 1814 and William 1816 both in Ribchester, Lancs. Their father Thomas died in May 1822 and their mother Margaret in Dec 1822. There was an infant sister Ann (Nancy) who died in 1823.

there are censuses with workhouse children as belonging to institutes .

They would be adults by the time of the 1841 census.

You could check the local archives of the area they were born to check if any records are available.

They may have been raised by grandparents of aunts and uncles.

Richard is married by 1841 and living in Ribchester. Perhaps he had remained ther after his parents died and lived with relatives.

Name: Richard Barton
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Gender: Male
Where born: Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Ribchester
Hundred: Blackburn (Lower Division)
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: Preston
Sub-registration district: Alston
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 505
Book: 12
Folio: 9
Page Number: 9
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Barton 25
Dorothy Barton 20
Thomas Barton 4
William Barton 2
Robert Barton 1

Same for William

1841

Name: William Burton
[William Barton]
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Gender: Male
Where born: Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Ribchester
Hundred: Blackburn (Lower Division)
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: Preston
Sub-registration district: Alston
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 505
Book: 12
Folio: 43
Page Number: 4
Household Members:
Name Age
William Burton 25
Nancy Burton 28
Ephraim Burton 1

there was no legal adoption in England until about 1927 ........................


what happened before then varied enormously


children could be put in an orphanage, and receive some training

in the work house, and receive some training


family, or friends, or even a neighbour might take them in


If they were put in an orphanage or work house, they might stay there until of working age ............ which was around the age of 10 or 12 at that time ................. or they might be transferred to a local person for them to work in the mill or on a farm, or some such.


Unfortunately, there are not many records of these events.

Richard Barton on the 1841 and 1851 is a Plasterer ...... that indicates he was set to a trade, ie apprenticed


William in 1841 is Lodger with Weaver, and in 1851 he is a Cotton Power Loom Weaver ........ incidentally he is on the 1851 as Buetow :-)



according to a tree on ancestry, there were several older children ..................


James Barton
1809 –

Thomas BARTON
1814 –

Richard Barton
1815 – 1860

William BARTON
1816 – 1879

Robert BARTON
1819 –

Ann BARTON
1822 – 1823

Nancy BARTON
1822 – 1823

Alice Barton
1822 –


If this tree is accurate ............... then older siblings could have taken in the younger ones.

No No No ...............


that tree is NOT accurate :-)


Thomas and Margaret Seed did not marry until 6 June 1814, both with consent of parents according to the lancs opc


Thomas was 31 when he died on 17 May 1822, and Margaret was 33 when she died in December


Her entry on lancs opc is very interesting.

I don't think I have ever seen one like it before!


Burial: 26 Dec 1822 St Wilfrid, Ribchester, Lancashire, England

Margaret Barton, Widow and Relic - W of Thomas Barton
Age: 33 years
Abode: Ribchester
Buried by: Papist <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Register: Burials 1813 - 1859, Page 75, Entry 596
Source: LDS Film 94021



I wonder if that was the reason why they were married with parental permission???


They both were certainly over 21 when they married!

I'm wondering whether there might be any aunts or uncles who would have taken them in?


Thomas Barton was a Weaver on Richard's baptism, hence possible the reason why William became a Weaver

Ribchester was in Preston poor-law union. You might check if there are any workhouse records available, maybe in the Lancs R O in Preston.

For an insight of Ribchester Work House, have a look at this link

http://www.workhouses.org.uk/Preston/

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