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For our info - FMP transcription with a slightly better attempt than Ancestry. Father only has initial not full first name and it does look like the J that they have transcribed for son J Stoner. If Emm(er) was born Essex, could they still be in that area?

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
43 Baildon St Deptford S E, St Paul Deptford, London, England

Print household transcription Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
V Stoner Head Married Male 52 1859 Wood Chopper Deptford Kent
Sarah Stoner Wife Married Female 48 1863 - Rotherhithe Kent <<< def, Rother-ithe
J Stoner Son Single Male 29 1882 Hawker Greenwich Kent
Saraj Stoner Dorter Single Female 27 1884 Hawker Deptford Kent
Emmer Stoner Dorter Single Female 22 1889 Hawker Warwick Essex <<<< ?Harwich, Essex
John Stoner Son Single Male 15 1896 Errand Boy Greenwich Kent
Charles Stoner Son - Male 11 1900 School Greenwich Kent

That's the same image and family. Emma's birth location is unclear as it has been overwritten. Should be Wansdworth, Surrey, as in 1891.

Marriages Dec 1896 (>99%)
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Harriss Fanny Hannah Greenwich 1d 1723
Stoner James Henry Greenwich 1d 1723

(if above fit anywhere, 3 Baptisms on below)


http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl

Chris :)

Thanks Chris. Error for Harris I think. Another family, another thread - with at least nine births! I'll look at freereg.

Name: John Stone
Age (Original): 20
Gender: Male
Birth Year: 1861
Birthplace: Deptford, Kent, England
Relationship to Head of Household: Son
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Woodchopper
Address: 13 Smiths Rents
Event Place: Greenwich, Kent, England
Disability:
Record Type: Household
GS Film number: 1341168
Affiliate Publication Number: RG11
Piece/Folio: 723 / 48
Page Number: 13


Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
Ellen Stone Head F 36 Deptford, Kent, England
Catherine Stone Daughter F 22 Deptford, Kent, England
John Stone Son M 20 Deptford, Kent, England
Amelia E Stone Grand Daughter F 4 Greenwich, Kent, England

There is this Electoral Roll for 1901

Name: James Henry Stoner
Year: 1901
County or Borough: Greenwich
Ward or Division/Constituency: Greenwich
Street address: 9 St James' Place West, Roan Street

If anyone could do an address lookup for 1901 census this might be worth a look

1901

9, Roan Street, Greenwich, London, England









?Print household transcription

Household Members



First name(s)

Last name

Relationship

Marital condition

Gender

Age

Birth year

Occupation

Birth place



Charles Whitehouse Head Widower Male 50 1851 Dockyard Labourer London
? ?

Grace Whitehouse Daughter Single Female 19 1882 General Servant (Domestic) London
? ?

Harry Whitehouse Son - Male 14 1887 Rivet Boy (Shipyard) London
? ?

Louisa Whitehouse Daughter - Female 12 1889 - London
? ?

Ethel Whitehouse Daughter - Female 11 1890 - London
? ?

Reginald Whitehouse Son - Male 9 1892 -

Thanks, Thelma. I'm wondering whether St James' Place West is located in or off Roan Street? If this is the case, it looks as if it may have been missed off the census

That's the address that James Henry born 1880 gives on his Enlistment to the army in 1897.but I couldn't find them there in 1901

Just to confirm that this looks to be the couple from the 1896 marriage:-

1911


James Henry Stoner Head Married Male 37 1874 Jobbing Hand At Any Work Deptford
Fanny Stoner Wife Married Female 34 1877 - Deptford
Hannah Stoner Daughter Single Female 10 1901 - Kent
Jessie Stoner Daughter - Female 5 1906 - -
Robert Stoner Son - Male 2 1909 - -



If James joined the army in 1897 then have you considered that he may not be on the 1901 census. This was the time of the Boer war so he may have been in South Africa?

Name: William Stone
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1871
Gender: Male
Age: 52
Relationship to Head of Household: Self
Birthplace: Deptford, Kent
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Greenwich
Sub-District: St Nicholas Deptford
Parish: St Nicholas Deptford
County: London, Kent


Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
William Stone Self M 52 Deptford, Kent
Ellen Stone Wife F 46 Deptford, Kent
Margaret Stone Daughter F 22 Deptford, Kent
William Stone Son M 20 Deptford, Kent
John Stone Son M 11 Deptford, Kent



Citing this Record:
"England and Wales Census, 1871," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VB6M-1C3 : accessed 21 Jul 2014), William Stone, St Nicholas Deptford, London, Kent, England; citing "1871 England, Scotland and Wales census," index and images, findmypast.co.uk (www.findmypast.co.uk : Brightsolid, n.d.); PRO RG 10, folio 63, p. 45; Greenwich registration district, St Nicholas Deptford subdistrict, ED 3, household 222, The National Archives of the UK, Kew, Surrey; FHL microfilm 0824723.

It is definitely a Stoner family with Ancestry's 1911 STONE being a transcription error, obvious from the source. And James Henry is the 1860 one, there being at least six such births in the Greenwich RD.

Some time (between 1912 and 1929?) St James's Place West became Plume Place West but that seems to have gone now.

A listing of 1891 census streets shows
Roan Street, Greenwich West, GREENWICH
Roan Street, St Peter, GREENWICH

The census section with 9 Roan Street contains 'Roan Street from Church Street to Old Greycoat School, numbers 2 to 44 & 1 to 21. This seems to imply that there's more somewhere else. I've now found Roan St 90-126 and am still looking.

Thanks for all of the help. I'll post if and when I find St James Place West

District 5 has 23-125 and 46-88 Roan Street. No St James Place. End of story I suspect. Closing.