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Eliza Speer

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MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 31 Oct 2012 20:03

Hello Yvonne - just as a safety check, does the occupation of Thomas' father on his birth certificate correspond with that on his marriage certificate?

Gee

Gee Report 31 Oct 2012 19:48

Hi Yvonne

I have only gone on the info that you (and your researcher) have given

I cant be sure any of it is 'true' and I guess, neither can you

Do you want to start with the 'facts' that you have?

x

Yvonne

Yvonne Report 31 Oct 2012 19:33

No, he just gave me the info above. I sent for the birth certificate of Thomas (b. 1864) and will send for the marriage cert. of Thomas and Jane but the only other info I'll get from it will be the witnesses and I'm not sure that will really help but we'll give it a try.

The info on Isabella Virtue is also correct, thanks. The name changed several times over the years which makes things even more confusing.

Thanks
Yvonne

Gee

Gee Report 31 Oct 2012 19:23

Ireland, Civil Registration Marriages Index, 1845-1958
about Isabella Virtue
Name: Isabella Virtue
Date of Registration: 1876
Registration district: Irvinestown
Volume: 2
Page: 203 (click to see others on page)
FHL Film Number: 101252

Thomas Speir 1876 Irvinestown
Isabella Virtue 1876 Irvinestown

Gee

Gee Report 31 Oct 2012 19:18

Did the person who you paid........give you certificates?


Thats what you need

Yvonne

Yvonne Report 31 Oct 2012 19:15

A year or so ago I paid an Irish researcher to find the birth of my g grandfather, Thomas Speer, and that's how I have the birth certificate for his birth in 1864. Other info the researcher gave me was that Thomas' father was married to Jane Breen on 2 Jul 1856 and that Thomas (the father) was a widower at that time and that his father was Robert Speer. He also gave me info that after Jane died Thomas married Isabella Virtue. Further research gave Thomas' first wife as Mary ? and there was a baptism for a child in 1848 but the name was illegible.

It all gets very confusing.
Yvonne

Gee

Gee Report 31 Oct 2012 18:53

Ireland, Civil Registration Marriages Index, 1845-1958
about Thomas Speer
Name: Thomas Speer
Date of Registration: 1856
Registration district: Lowtherstown
Volume: 7
Page: 498 (click to see others on page)
FHL Film Number: 101246

Spouse - Jane Breen

If you buy the cert, you will have more details

Yvonne

Yvonne Report 31 Oct 2012 18:39

Yes, this is a sibling of Thomas born in 1864 but it's Thomas' father's (also Thomas) siblings I'm looking for. Thanks.

Yvonne

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 31 Oct 2012 18:28

Not sure this helps much, but might be a sibling??

name: Isabella Catherine Spear
gender: Female
baptism/christening date:
baptism/christening place:
birth date: 01 Sep 1868
birthplace: Fermanagh, Ireland
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: Thomas Spear
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Jane Brien
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C01186-6
system origin: Ireland-EASy
source film number: 101171
reference number: v 12-1 p 157
Citing this Record

Jan

Yvonne

Yvonne Report 31 Oct 2012 18:14

I have the birth certificate of my g grandfather, Thomas Speer, born 19 Mar 1864 in Irvinestown, Ireland. From the certificate I know that his parents are Thomas Speer and Jane Breen, but the registrant was given as Eliza Speer, sister. I know that Thomas (the father) was married three times and that his father was Robert Speer, but I can't find any info on Thomas' siblings or when he was born. Jane was born abt 1830 so I'm guessing he was about the same time. Can anyone point me in the right direction to possibly find Eliza and any other siblings please.

Thanks
Yvonne