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i'm trying to find any information on FREDRICK SUMMERS married to FRANCIS GERTRUDE SUMMERS living in 35 TEMPLEFIELDS ST,SMALLHEATH,BIRMINGHAM IN 1911. THEY HAD 2 SONS LEONARD AGE 4 AND LOIUS AGE 1.Can't find any birth record for him HELP

Name: SUMMERS, Frederick
Registration district: Aston
County: Warwickshire
Year of registration: 1885
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3Volume no:6D Page no:427

Their marriage certificate would hopefully give his father's name to enable you to find him on earlier census returns.


Marriages Sep 1906 (>99%)
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PITTAWAY Frances Gertrude Aston 6d 767
Summers Frederick Aston 6d 767

possibly

1901

RG number: RG13
Piece: 2879
Folio: 117
Page: 21
Reg. District: Aston
Sub District: Erdington
Parish: Aston
Enum. District: 32
Ecclesiastical District: Washwood Heath St Mark
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 118, Allotments Road, Aston
County: Warwickshire



SUMMERS, William B Head Widower M 53 1848 Steam Hammerman
Leicester, Leicestershire
SUMMERS, Annie Daughter Single F 17 1884
Bham, Warwickshire
>>>>>SUMMERS, Frederick Son M 16 1885 Brass Worker
Bham, Warwickshire

1891

RG number: RG12
Piece: 2413
Folio: 114
Page: 29
Reg. District: Aston
Sub District: Deritend
Parish: Bordesley
Enum. District: 72
Ecclesiastical District: St Andrew
City/Municipal Borough: Birmingham
Address: 52, Gordon Street, Bordesley, Birmingham
County: Warwickshire


SUMMERS, William Beasley Head Married M 43 1848 Hammerman
Leicester
SUMMERS, Hannah Wife Married F 39 1852 Brick Moulder
Dudley
SUMMERS, Thomas Son Single M 18 1873 Iron Moulder
Birmingham
SUMMERS, Edwin Son M 12 1879 Scholar
Birmingham
SUMMERS, Nellie Daughter F 4 1887 Scholar
Birmingham
SUMMERS, George Son M 9 1882 Scholar
Birmingham
SUMMERS, Anne Daughter F 8 1883 Scholar
Birmingham
SUMMERS, John Son M 7 1884 Scholar
Birmingham
>>>>>SUMMERS, Frederick Son M 6 1885 Scholar
Birmingham
SUMMERS Daughter F 0 (1M) 1891
Birmingham

This is puzzling (look at his occupation/wife/place of birth)

Name: William B. Summers
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Caroline Summers <<<<
Gender: Male
Where born: West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England<<<<

Civil parish: Aston
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street Address: No 3 Lander St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Steam Hammer Man (JCM) <<<<<

Registration district: Aston
Sub-registration district: Aston Manor
ED, institution, or vessel: 70
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3049
Folio: 37
Page Number: 22
Household Members:
Name Age
William B. Summers 33
Caroline Summers 35
William B. Summers 11
Thomas Summers 8
Kate Summers 5
Nellie Summers
James Mynett 16

THANKS TO ALL OF YOU WHO HAVE ANSWERED MY QUERY IT HAS POSSIBLY GIVEN ME A BIT MORE TO GO ON.

Hi all i'm back again , this time I need to know how to find certain relatives records of death as I am finding it very frustrating trying to nail this one. Where can I search for this information as I have already looked in the section for deaths.
I also need to know the best place for information on relatives after the 1911 census.
I hope some of you will have the answer to these questions and I await any response eagerly.
Thanks in advance.

mark

Hi Mark.
What site are you using for births, marriages & deaths? Freebmd is the best one - free as the name suggests!:

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

You can see Louis' birth thus:

Births Mar 1910 (>99%)
SUMMERS Louis Aston 6d 219

And I would suggest?

Deaths Dec 1918 (>99%)
Summers Louis 8 Aston 6d 755

From Ancestry:

Name: Leonard Summers
Birth Date: 30 Nov 1906
Baptism Date: 20 Dec 1906
Baptism Place: Bordesley, St Andrew, Warwickshire, England
Father: Frederick Summers
Mother: Frances Gertrude Summers
Reference Number: DRO 63
Archive Roll: 683

Deaths Dec 1918 (>99%)
Summers Frances G 31 Aston 6d 759

Also from Ancestry, using Leonard's date of birth (this is shown on indexes after 1969)

Name: Leonard Summers
Birth Date: 30 Nov 1906
Date of Registration: Jun 1972
Age at Death: 65
Registration district: Birmingham
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 9c
Page: 686

This might be Leonard 1955 - there are a few Leonard Summers around, but most have a middle name. He is living with a Winifred M. Summers and Leonard Summers junior.

1955 electoral register
Name: Leonard Summers
Year: 1955
Ward or Division/Constituency: Aston
Street address: 131 Wood End Road
Residence Place: Birmingham

Are you aware of these births too (from Freebmd) - 1911 onwards, you can use MMN to search for births:

Births Dec 1912 (>99%)
SUMMERS Ida M Pittaway Aston 6d 539

Births Mar 1915
Summers Frederick Pittaway Aston 6d 932

Births Sep 1916
Summers Frank Pittaway Aston 6d 822

thanks for the info and the free site details will have a look and see what I can learn from this site. your a life saver brummiejan

You're welcome Mark. Have fun!

when will the 1921 census be released does anybody know?
and are the electoral registers for every year or every 5 years ? as I would like to try and find people in them as I don't no where else to look.

thanks for all your help on the last query I posted .I know I been on this site for years but I am still very new to all of this and need some guidance on the best places to look for ancestors. thanks again

mark

when will the 1921 census be released does anybody know?
and are the electoral registers for every year or every 5 years ? as I would like to try and find people in them as I don't no where else to look.

thanks for all your help on the last query I posted .I know I been on this site for years but I am still very new to all of this and need some guidance on the best places to look for ancestors. thanks again

mark

1921 won't be released until 2022. Electoral Roles are updated annually, but only certain ones are available on line. You can search current and older ones at the local library.


Andy

wow another 6 years to wait . looks like I will be going to the library then. thanks andy.